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Old 07-29-2011, 05:20 PM
 
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The T Party never wanted to compromise on raising the Debt Ceiling and you know it. They have been saying that all alone. Tell me I am wrong and I can provide you with cites to show that I am right. You can't win this argument, but I would like you to see what I am talking about.
Some things can't be compromised on. Life and Death, Freedom and Slavery, Food and Poison, Throwing Money Down a Rathole and Not Throwing Money Down a Rathole.
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Old 07-29-2011, 05:25 PM
 
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Why hasn't the Senate passed anything yet? Is Reid afraid of something?
If he puts something down on paper he will be taking responsibility and making a commitment to something. He will be on record and won't be able to play both sides of the street. Weasel.
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Old 07-29-2011, 05:32 PM
 
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If he puts something down on paper he will be taking responsibility and making a commitment to something. He will be on record and won't be able to play both sides of the street. Weasel.
Yep, how long since the dems have passed a budget?
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Old 07-29-2011, 05:37 PM
 
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Obama can't force Congress to play nice. Republicans will take the fall for this, not Obama. Obama can't do anything until a bill crosses his desk that was agreed on by Congress. Congress can't agree on anything, so how is this Obama's fault?
That's why the Democrats say that Obama is not a leader.
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Old 07-29-2011, 05:46 PM
 
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I am only guessing that you would mean that things you listed above would be the result of not raising the debt ceiling. I can cite many sources that say that it would be much worse than that, but to be fair, nobody knows for sure. It is just a big risk that does not need to be taken.

You can always argue about the budge. Pass the debt ceiling and then introduce a balance budget amendment by itself. It would be excellent political advantage if either party did this, but the bill would need to be a lone bill.
I do agree about separating the two. But it's hard to balance a budget when you haven't had one for two years.

The debt ceiling is a check point where the people's representatives in Congress can agree if this ceiling needs to be raised - especially since it involves our taxes.

Let me repeat - a raise in the debt ceiling is raising taxes - not the rate, but the principal amount that we will have to pay back to government in the future.

If this was a standalone issue, I would say no.
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Old 07-29-2011, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Tea Party will not vote to Raise Debt Ceiling!
FAIL, epically.

Check your breaking news feed.
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Old 07-29-2011, 05:54 PM
 
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The House has now voted two different plans through which raise the debt ceiling in the past two weeks; the Senate, not so much. Therefore, the OP's thread title is intentionally misleading and against the TOS.
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:07 PM
 
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The House has now voted two different plans through which raise the debt ceiling in the past two weeks; the Senate, not so much. Therefore, the OP's thread title is intentionally misleading and against the TOS.
They are not legitimate plans.

And Senate is going to Table the Boehner bill, and the House is working on Tableing the Reid Bill.

Do you really want to lie and claim this is a Democratic issue and the House is completely reasonable? Nothing Republcans have done has been reasonable. It's been give them anything they want, or they hold the economy hostage.
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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They are not legitimate plans.

And Senate is going to Table the Boehner bill, and the House is working on Tableing the Reid Bill.

Do you really want to lie and claim this is a Democratic issue and the House is completely reasonable? Nothing Republcans have done has been reasonable. It's been give them anything they want, or they hold the economy hostage.
Where is obama's plan? Where is the 800+ days late budget from the dems? What dem plan in the Senate has passed?

The CCB, the first bill, was a bipartisan effort.

Where are the details, specifics from the dems/obama?
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:11 PM
 
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Where is obama's plan? Where is the 800+ days late budget from the dems? What dem plan in the Senate has passed?
Kinda hard with a filibuster threat.
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Where are the details, specifics from the dems/obama?
Reid's Bill is very similar to Boehner's, but the Republicans are already threatening to Table Reid's bill.
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