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Old 07-29-2011, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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When there is an emergency, or when something must be passed by x date, the government is too slow to move to respond and act due to the overwhelming impasses brought by the current Presidential/Senate/HoR structure.

Checks and balances are good, but the founding fathers failed to account for this. It has become increasingly more of a fault since the dawn of the Internet and Communications Era.
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:45 PM
 
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Stalin and Mao knew how to get things done.
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:47 PM
 
Location: NJ
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i think the problem is that our politicians are only rewarded by spending more of our tax dollars rather than cutting. people donate to their campaigns, buy them big screen tv's, allow them to use their jets, etc. so that they can get some of that sweet government money. they dont grease palms so that they can cut spending.
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:50 PM
 
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I laugh at anyone who thinks the same characters who created the emergency, believe they can also deliver us from it.

It's like calling a bank robber a hero after he releases his hostages.

Stockholm syndrome anyone?
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:56 PM
 
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I disagree with the O/P.

The system breaks when the majority of members are motivated by personal greed or self interests.

It worked just fine when most of the folks elected had a higher morale obligation than either lining their pockets or blind loyalty to a flawed party policy.
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:58 PM
 
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I disagree with the O/P.

The system breaks when the majority of members are motivated by personal greed or self interests.

It worked just fine when most of the folks elected had a higher morale obligation than either lining their pockets or blind loyalty to a flawed party policy.
We just need to take the money and oversight of our entire lives, out of the federal governments hands
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:58 PM
 
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When there is an emergency, or when something must be passed by x date, the government is too slow to move to respond and act due to the overwhelming impasses brought by the current Presidential/Senate/HoR structure.

Checks and balances are good, but the founding fathers failed to account for this. It has become increasingly more of a fault since the dawn of the Internet and Communications Era.
The structure was just fine as designed in the Constitution. It is the modern implementation that fails, kind of like this thread.
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:59 PM
 
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When there is an emergency, or when something must be passed by x date, the government is too slow to move to respond and act due to the overwhelming impasses brought by the current Presidential/Senate/HoR structure.

Checks and balances are good, but the founding fathers failed to account for this. It has become increasingly more of a fault since the dawn of the Internet and Communications Era.
This isn't sudden, by any means. Congress, as usual, waits until the last minute.
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Old 07-29-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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It's not like lightning stuck and all of a sudden we had a debt issue. We spent trillions and then we claim it's an emergency. Maybe if they lived within a budget we wouldn't have this issue - oops, there is no budget. I guess that wasn't an emergency. Washington just never counted on the people being sick of it and demanding some limits.
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Old 07-29-2011, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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When there is an emergency, or when something must be passed by x date, the government is too slow to move to respond and act due to the overwhelming impasses brought by the current Presidential/Senate/HoR structure.

Checks and balances are good, but the founding fathers failed to account for this. It has become increasingly more of a fault since the dawn of the Internet and Communications Era.
Which is exactly what the Powers that be want us to believe... justification for yet MORE centralized power.

This is a completely manufactured disaster and is on track to put us into a future of incredible horror, the likes of which our country has never known.
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