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Old 08-01-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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You will find that most people who say they "worked their way through" acutally didn't. A lot live at home, gratis, which is a $1000/month gift from the parents. A lot have cars that the parents bought them. Many have some sort of scholarship that pays for part of their education. Many have employer tuition assistance. And so forth.
And some actually did. Rented an apartment with 4 other people to keep costs down. Had no car, walked everywhere after my bike was stolen. No scholarship. No tuition assistance. Two jobs (one full, one part time).
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:46 AM
 
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But working is hard
Just think what a job will do to their self esteem.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:47 AM
 
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Community college made it a lot easier in the pockets for me. A lot of people knock down community colleges but hey the one I attended saved me/parents A LOT of money. If you don't have enough money to attend a university go to a COMMUNITY COLLEGE , apply for grants, loans and use them wisely..having a part time or a full time job would help tremoundsly as well. Again this may not work for you but it worked for me..SAVE SAVE AND SAVE! Then when your time has come transfer to a university.

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Going to a community college is the only economic way to go to school today .
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:48 AM
 
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You forgot the part about walking 5 miles in the snow. Uphill. Both ways.

Honesly, you post is completely meaningless UNLESS you follow up with details, details of what you actually had going for you instead of what you didn't have going for you. And I'm not talking about moxie and work ethic. There is always more to the story than people like to tell when they chastise others.
Wow, liberals. They never think that the "going for you" could possibly be a desire to better yourself. They think it's all about luck and birth circumstance. Dismissing moxie and work ethic drives that home.

They really think the only way to get ahead is to inherit money. Makes it easy to blame everyone but yourself for your own failures that way.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:49 AM
 
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And it doesn't hurt to be born into a good family and have a good support network either. And I'm not talking about money.
Again, another liberal that thinks success depends solely on inheriting money.
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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And some actually did. Rented an apartment with 4 other people to keep costs down. Had no car, walked everywhere after my bike was stolen. No scholarship. No tuition assistance. Two jobs (one full, one part time).
Unfortunately the way things were then are not the way things are now. Many campuses are poorly planned. Car required. Many campuses don't have jobs available closeby. Car required. Most people can't find one job, let alone 2. Tuition years ago was far less than it is now. Textbooks in many cases are over $200 now. Computers are required. Back then, they weren't.
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Old 08-01-2011, 01:31 PM
 
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Baloney. Student Loans will always be availble to those that qualify. "Grants" should be abolished. No free college for anyone. Get a job deadbeat. My wife attends school AND works a full-time job at the same time.
You think getting a job is easy right now? Especially one that can support oneself and their college education?

Yes, there are student loans available for people to take out, but then you conservatives whine and complain about people taking out excessive loans to pay for school that they very well might not be able to pay back.

Why don't conservatives just come clean about it and admit that they don't think poor people should have access to higher education? They don't want to allow America's lower classes access to any route than can lead to them raising themselves out of poverty.
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Old 08-01-2011, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You think getting a job is easy right now? Especially one that can support oneself and their college education?

Yes, there are student loans available for people to take out, but then you conservatives whine and complain about people taking out excessive loans to pay for school that they very well might not be able to pay back.

Why don't conservatives just come clean about it and admit that they don't think poor people should have access to higher education? They don't want to allow America's lower classes access to any route than can lead to them raising themselves out of poverty.
I don't see folks whining about student loans. They cannot be discharged in bankruptcy so it's not like people can walk away from them and not pay.

I'm all for student loans. They have subsidized ones for the poor and unsubsidized ones for everyone else with the subsidy just being the interest portion paid while you are attending school.
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Oh yeah, school or community college or a real 4 year college? There's a big difference. Good luck holding down a full time job if she's doing a technical field or needs the grades to get into graduate school. The country has an interest in people being educated. I guess maybe you didn't avail of that and thus don't realize why the country needs educated people.
Do you even have any clue what you're talking about? "Real 4 year college" as if no other college or training program is good enough?

You can work full time and go to college of any kind.

It doesn't matter if a certain poster has a college education, that's just you being rude, yet again. People can still be successful without any schooling past high school. Yes, the country needs some people with an education but not everybody needs to go to college for the country to flourish. My husband makes more than I could even dream of making and he only has a high school diploma. I have a bachelor's degree and also a diploma from a tech school I went to.

Hard work and perseverance pay off, I don't care what anyone says. Pell grants should go away, let people work for what they have.
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Unfortunately the way things were then are not the way things are now. Many campuses are poorly planned. Car required. Many campuses don't have jobs available closeby. Car required. Most people can't find one job, let alone 2. Tuition years ago was far less than it is now. Textbooks in many cases are over $200 now. Computers are required. Back then, they weren't.
Take the bus. At UF, your student ID allows you to ride any city bus for free. I have a hard time believing other major universities don't have a similar setup.

Buy used textbooks, rent them, use online resources instead, share with a friend, etc.

Computers are available in labs on campus and at public libraries for free.
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