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You're right. The Tea Party in the past month has demonstrated it's not capable of participating in a democracy.
It is one thing to come to Washington on a mission of reform, but you have to learn to work within the system. You can't come close to achieving your goals in a democracy, if you think compromise is a dirty word. They are a bunch of zealots who won't listen to reason.
And Boehner is the worst Speaker ever. Instead of teaching the rookies how to give a little to get a lot, he went along with their crazy zealotry, wasting two precious weeks in the House when he could have been helping us avoid default.
Here's a piece by conservative Kathleen Parker in today's WaPo, laying into the Tea Party.
Translation-Do as your told. Not happening with this bunch sorry. The "good old boys" have broken it beyond repair and now want to blame the newcomers. Nope homey don't play dat.
For four years we have been without a budget. The entire time the Democrats controlled Congress there has not been a single budget enacted into law. This is the primary responsibility of the House. The Senate cannot originate a budget, and the President obviously does not originate a budget. Only the House is required to originate the budget. Which makes it entirely Speaker Pelosi's fault that there has never been a budget while she was Speaker.
Actually the president is the one to get the ball rolling...........
Where'd you get your crystal ball? The ERA never made it. I forget how many decades ago it was introduced. The more people analyzed it, and sensationalized it, the more states voted it down. Even if a BB amendment DID pass in two to three years, that's still a long time. Then the details have to get worked out, etc. It could be five years or more in the best case scenario before there actually WAS a balanced budget.
Where did NPR get their little ball? Who really cares how long it takes as long as its done. Same BS different day.
There you go projecting about Obama/Reid again because they are the ones "in power". Democrats have the power and refuse to address the debt except to demand they get more of it. Got it yet?
Please tell me what is so "nutty" about the fiscal Conservatives demanding that $0.01 out of every dollar spent be saved/cut from the debt! One penny from every dollar spent is holding a gun to the heads of Progressives? Really?
Go ahead, justify away why Senate Progressives refuse to save one penny of every dollar spent and cut it from the debt.
Since he won't argue with simpletons, I'll step in. He wasn't projecting anything, just saying that people with extremist views in office are dangerous. I realize that you didn't go to college or anything, but you should ask him what he means if you can't understand the words he types.
What is "nutty" about things is that fiscal conservatives are asking for a lot more than $0.01 on $1. They're wanting a balanced budget amendment which, amongst other things, would limit the country from responding to an emergency or attack and also drive the country deep into recession. The 'fiscal conservatives' can grow a set and step up and say what they would cut to balance the budget and run the figures by the CBO. They won't do that as they're just pandering for votes.
Senate progressives? The last time I checked, any plan that came out of the Senate with Democratic approval included a lot of cuts. To make some of the burden be born by the rich, it included a repeal of the Bush tax cuts that even Buffet way back when said he didn't need.
The gang of six plan in the senate would have likely been law by now if it weren't for the tea baggers.
Yet the GOP majority House elected because of the fiscally Conservative Tea Party did pass a budget and Reid refuses to do same. Who's nuts? Harry Reid abandoned his debt bill when challenged by McConnell on the Senate floor to put it to a vote last night. Who's nuts?
The GOP controlled House has yet to pass a budget, but they are half-way there. They have passed six of the twelve appropriation bills. They have until September 30th to pass the remaining six appropriation bills. The Senate does not originate the budget, only the House can do that, but the Senate may amend the budget that the House passes, and the President, of course, can veto any or all of the twelve appropriation bills passed by Congress.
If the House passes all twelve appropriation bills, then they will have done their job as required. If the Senate fails to enact all twelve appropriation bills into law after amending them, then the Senate will have failed and it will be Senator Reid's fault. If the Senate enacts the budget into law, and the President vetoes one or more of the budget bills and it results in a government shutdown, then it will be the President's fault.
Only if the House fails in their constitutional responsibility to originate a budget, like the Democrats failed to do for the entire four years they controlled the House, will it be the House's fault.
Translation-Do as your told. Not happening with this bunch sorry. The "good old boys" have broken it beyond repair and now want to blame the newcomers. Nope homey don't play dat.
Yep, the "good ol' days of buying votes by giving elected officials special pet projects in their districts is over. Now the business of usual Progressives are faced not being able to buy votes to keep their agenda rolling. What to do....... Ah yes, label the ones adhering to their Constitutional oaths as "nuts".
You won't get the ammendment. It's just an idiot idea. You can't tie the hands of government to be able to act in emergency situations.
I can just see it now. "WEll , my fellow Americans, we have been attacked but we can't do anything about it because we don't have the funds this year. Maybe 5 years from now we will be able to do something.
Well, we here in Washington know that the big one has hit and LA lays in ruins, the people are dying like flies but we can't do anything because we have spent all our money for this year.
It's just plain and simple an idiot idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The federal debt currently exceeds $14 trillion dollars.
Sorry, but that's an utter load of crap. You approach things with your emotions which tell you that you're conservative. You then base all of your opinions on your emotions assuming that everything that Democrats do is wrong and everything that Republicans do is perfect. It is thoughtless partisans like you that are the cause of all of our problems in this country. In your case, it is a right wing partisan and the same applies to the tree huggers.
Your Republicans buddies are the masters of the talking point. The concern about the country's credit being downgraded isn't just a concern by the pathetic left-wing copy of you. It will drive up the deficit and thus the amount of money I have to pay back. It will also drive up interest rates which have a massive impact on the economy. Already my stocks have lost money. You probably don't have any. You're probably not looking at buying a house because what you'll pay for that will go up quite a bit. The only thing emotional here is you.
Maintained a stern, but compromising outlook but eventually raising the debt limit up to the amount of the deficit they voted on.
The economic policies of Jesus himself wouldn't make much of a difference here. By the way, who had almost complete control of the government for the 8 years leading up to current mess we're in.
Ask yourself this. If Republicans are really so concerned about reduced spending and balanced budget amendments, why didn't they do anything about it for 6 years when they had full control of the House, Senate and Presidency? They could reformed SS. Nobody in the party would back Bush. They could have said invading Iraq is worthless and will cost too much. They didn't. They could have said drugs for seniors was just a gift to the pharma lobby. They didn't. They could have cut spending then. Did Bush even veto any bill during that time? They did a lot when it came to funding religious organizations, debating Terri Schiavo and Janet Jackson's boob, but nothing about spending.
In terms of your overall points, the HBO has data that shows the policies they put forward worked. They're the same that pretty much anyone would have done Republican or Democrat. The only difference is that if a Republican had done it, neophyte partisans like yourself would be on here claiming how well it worked.
What the Tea Party should have done is stood behind their leader and got the biggest deal possible that would have left the stock market alone, stopped economic uncertainty that is hurting the economy and actually got something done.
You approach politics with about as much of an open mind as a KKK member approaches race.
Fantastic post.
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