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Unfortunately, none of these have a plan that will help the US economy. A reduction in government spending is not it alone. Inflation IS going to rise, and quickly - debt IS going to become more expensive, and government borrowing and printing of money is unsustainable. Not one candidate has admitted that the the worst of the 2008 crash is yet to come and the ONLY way to deal with it is to enforce a greater progressive tax system that doesn't include loopholes of any kind. We are not in a 'boom and bust' situation - the drivers are different and the management of it needs to be progressive. All of the above subscribe to 'market cycle' and 'free unregulated market' principles.. all of which are the cause NOT the remedy.
(Apologies if anyone else posted this link, I haven't finished reading the thread)
In my opinion, this is the worst betrayal of the middle and working classes of America.
Unemployment, already at levels not seen since the Great Depression, will skyrocket.
No reform of the tax codes.
Shaming the country with the sight of our supposed lawmakers acting like spoiled irresponsible children.
I happily admit I was wrong. The President DID grow a pair and forced the GOP to cave.
He just announced a deal which will raise the debt ceiling, while punting the other things the GOP wanted down the road to a bi-partisan commission.
And, he made the announcment without John Boehner or Mitch McConnell standing by his side! It is HIS victory!
Better yet, it apparently will take Nancy Pelosi to deliver enough Democratic votes in the House to off-set the Tea Partiers who Boehner cannot control.
This is as total a defeat for the GOP as last years election was for the Democrats!
I hope this is sarcasm because the Democrats were plastered.
But who really cares what party won. Was this good for America or not? Considering a bunch of wealthy Lawyers in suits put this together I say probably not.
Yes, have you read it? - it's a shoddy piece of toilet roll. Complete garbage. My post remains unchanged.
Well that is complete rubbish. Of course it is a well thoght out and serious plan. Of course your critique is clear evidence uou have never heard of it, much less read it.
(Apologies if anyone else posted this link, I haven't finished reading the thread)
In my opinion, this is the worst betrayal of the middle and working classes of America.
Unemployment, already at levels not seen since the Great Depression, will skyrocket.
No reform of the tax codes.
Shaming the country with the sight of our supposed lawmakers acting like spoiled irresponsible children.
I mourn for our children and their children.
Well what is your solution to the incredible problems that have festered inside the beltway the last 25 years? It appears that these new players in the house at least recognize major reform is needed. They will not just bow down to the failing establishment.
Well that is complete rubbish. Of course it is a well thoght out and serious plan. Of course your critique is clear evidence uou have never heard of it, much less read it.
Actually I have - the reason being that my wife is from Wisconsin (and are moving back to the states this year, but not to Wisconsin). It doesn't address the issues whatsoever.. It's a big pile of lower taxes to stimulate growth, lower government spending etc. What us coming are higher interest rates, a dollar crash and a reduced government ability to borrow to finance it's debt. The Ryan plan is ideological, not actual.
The debt ceiling deal passed today is terrible. It shows a lack of leadership by the President, incompetence by the democrats and downright lunacy from the republicans. It's a broken system and neither party seem capable of fixing it - the Ryan plan is no better than the typical crap cheerleaded by the tea party.
Actually I have - the reason being that my wife is from Wisconsin (and are moving back to the states this year, but not to Wisconsin). It doesn't address the issues whatsoever.. It's a big pile of lower taxes to stimulate growth, lower government spending etc. What us coming are higher interest rates, a dollar crash and a reduced government ability to borrow to finance it's debt. The Ryan plan is ideological, not actual.
The debt ceiling deal passed today is terrible. It shows a lack of leadership by the President, incompetence by the democrats and downright lunacy from the republicans. It's a broken system and neither party seem capable of fixing it - the Ryan plan is no better than the typical crap cheerleaded by the tea party.
You reasoning makes no sense, be that as it may, ryans plan addresses the biggest driver of cost Medicare. As well as revamping the tax structure. There is no way on earth you have read the plan.
[quote=Finn_Jarber;20262448]Actually it went up as soon as the news broke.[/quote
Of course it did; that's to be expected upon the news of a debt ceiling agrement BUT wait for the bond raters to do their thing at the impact of you not doing a thing to address your debt but merely increasing it and then come back on here with what your dollars worth. Give yourselves 3 months of partying, a year at the very outside and we'll have this conversation again.
and the money bush threw out in tax credits wasn't from a surplus of income under Clinton. as I said Cognitive dissonance is an amazing thing.
the surplus Clinton had, republicans deserve all the credit for that. they were in control of the house they are the ones that force Clinton to negotiate a deal, the result, a surplus, say thank you, republicans!!
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Did you ever hear of the Ryan roadmap?
