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Old 07-31-2011, 10:40 PM
 
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I would imagine that there are some liberal politicians who are unhappy about the deal raised, but all in all, most are happy. It is a win for Democrats and a win for our country.

My bet and we can find out if I am right fairly quickly. My bet is that the bill passes both in the Senate and the house and I bet the TParty candidates do not vote for it. So anything that the TParty can't stomach is a good thing.

I have seen the power point of the bill. I like it...for now.
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Old 07-31-2011, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Here
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The spinning going on in here is making me dizzy.
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Old 07-31-2011, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The spinning going on in here is making me dizzy.

I know. Virtually every pundit on TV has said this is a huge win for the GOP...not so much for obama and a definite loss for the Left.

They are just trying to spin it, but no doubt about it, they got virtually NOTHING of what they asked for.

Tax increases - zilch.

Clean DC bill - nada.

Meanwhile, the TP/conservatives DROVE the debate toward spending cuts, smaller government and completely away from tax hikes.
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Old 07-31-2011, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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I would imagine that there are some liberal politicians who are unhappy about the deal raised, but all in all, most are happy. It is a win for Democrats and a win for our country.

My bet and we can find out if I am right fairly quickly. My bet is that the bill passes both in the Senate and the house and I bet the TParty candidates do not vote for it. So anything that the TParty can't stomach is a good thing.

I have seen the power point of the bill. I like it...for now.
Lol, the CBC and the progressive caucus are enraged. It means it must be a good bill. Pelosi is going to have a hard time whipping votes due to the radical lectures she has to deal with.
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Old 07-31-2011, 10:47 PM
 
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I know. Virtually every pundit on TV has said this is a huge win for the GOP...not so much for obama and a definite loss for the Left.

They are just trying to spin it, but no doubt about it, they got virtually NOTHING of what they asked for.
You'd say the sky is orange just to argue.
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Old 07-31-2011, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Man oh man, the NYT is in a frothing rage. Look at their editorial in my thread and then this;

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/01/op...t-ceiling.html

The President Surrenders
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Old 07-31-2011, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Man oh man, the NYT is in a frothing rage. Look at their editorial in my thread and then this;

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/01/op...t-ceiling.html

The President Surrenders
Lol, a real victory for the left!
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Old 07-31-2011, 10:52 PM
 
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I know. Virtually every pundit on TV has said this is a huge win for the GOP..<snip>
Doncha think they're jumping the gun just a bit, there has been no vote yet!
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Old 07-31-2011, 10:53 PM
 
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I know. Virtually every pundit on TV has said this is a huge win for the GOP...not so much for obama and a definite loss for the Left.

They are just trying to spin it, but no doubt about it, they got virtually NOTHING of what they asked for.

Tax increases - zilch.

Clean DC bill - nada.

Meanwhile, the TP/conservatives DROVE the debate toward spending cuts, smaller government and completely away from tax hikes.
Well the committe's recommendations will not pass so the trigger takes place. The trigger is 50/50 defense spending and medicare on the PROVIDER SIDE...AND Obama can still veto any bill that would continue the bush tax hikes for the WEALTHY.

I don't know what is not to like about the bill. You either get tax hikes on the committee recommendations or you can eliminate the Bush tax hikes. Hey win, win. What is not to like?
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Old 07-31-2011, 10:55 PM
 
Location: FL
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Lol, the CBC and the progressive caucus are enraged. It means it must be a good bill. Pelosi is going to have a hard time whipping votes due to the radical lectures she has to deal with.
Hannity is foaming at the mouth so I would assume that he doesn't like it. He is yelling so loud that it is hard to hear him.
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