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Old 08-02-2011, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Insurance premiums might have been going up each year but now they will go up more.
Remember the goal of obamacare was to subsidize insurance so that all can have it..actually they are mandated to have it.

And who will do that subsidizing..why those that pay out of their own pocket. Now you'll just pay even more because you will be subsidizing those that can't afford it and also for these new found "free" medical services.
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Old 08-02-2011, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Co-pays and deductibles keep hypochondriacs from wasting a valuable doctors time by showing up every time they get a sniffle or cut their finger.

Without some out-of-pocket expense, people would engage in dangerous activities that may cause them harm knowing that the only "cost" to them is a few days off from work.
Well now they don't have to worry about co-pays and deductibles.
They can go as often as they like because it's "free" !
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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It's amazing the people who think that health insurance costs ONLY will go up because of Obama. The poor old things never noticed premiums have been going up forever...up and up right through Bush's term...and nothing was done about it.

But it is a source of joy to watch them suffer horrible agonies knowing that part of their premiums go to BC, to other people! All the while never knowing or caring that the biggest part of their health care costs go to their God, and only god, Wealthy executives...those who need it the least....whackjobs!
Well let me ask you another question. What makes women so special that the president has to mandate special healthcare things for them? How about this?

"In the Rasmussen survey, Romney fares better than Obama among men, 46 percent to 39 percent, while the president garners more support from women, 45 percent to 40 percent. Women break 52-38 for the president in the PPP survey. Men favor Romney by an identical margin."

RealClearPolitics - Obama, Romney Neck-and-Neck in New National Polls

How is it any different than payback to the unions?
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:27 AM
 
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Well now they don't have to worry about co-pays and deductibles.
They can go as often as they like because it's "free" !
It wont be free your taxes would cover a universal health care plan for all, and from some of the monthly quotes i'm seeing of $1000 plus i'll bet it will be closer to $500 per month per family under gvmnt admin., and the gvmnt wont be weaseling out of paying because your covered no matter what so what would be their motivation to weasel out of giving you the healthcare your taxes are entitling you to....
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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I keep saying that sick people without insurance should be exterminated. That would relieve the problem.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:36 AM
 
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Well let me ask you another question. What makes women so special that the president has to mandate special healthcare things for them?
Seriously?

Didn't you have "that talk" with your mother or health class teacher?

Didn't she explain that women are much more biologically complex than men? Do we really need to have someone sit down and explain it to you?
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Well let me ask you another question. What makes women so special that the president has to mandate special healthcare things for them?
I guess you'd rather have insurance company cover only what they can for both men and women. Mammogram... no m'am, we won't cover since you're not "special".
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:45 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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"Insurance companies must fully cover contraception, HIV and HPV screening and a handful of other women’s health services under new guidelines released Monday by the Obama administration. Insurers may not charge a co-payment or deductible or require co-insurance for any of the preventative measures outlined by an Institute of Medicine (IOM) panel charged with identifying services considered necessary for the health and well-being of women. Going into effect August 1, 2012, the mandatory guidelines also include annual preventative care checkups for women, screening for gestational diabetes, counseling on sexually-transmitted infections, breastfeeding support and domestic violence screening and counseling."

White House: Insurers must cover abortion pill - Washington Times

Just who do you think is going to pay for all of these new "free" women's services mandated by Obama? All of us who pay for all or part of our health insurance, that's who. And when health insurance costs go up for employers who provide health insurance for all of their employees what's going to happen then? And the President who promised under Obamacare you get to keep your health insurance and goes through backdoor and does this mandating, what then? He'll blame those mean insurance companies that keep raising your rates, that's what he'll do? And what will the voters do? They'll scream for the government to save them with single payer healthcare. Don't you see what he's up to?
Do you think that insurance costs or overall health costs would go down when illnesses develop and cost more to treat when they could've been prevented inexpensively in comparison?
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:46 AM
 
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Just who do you think is going to pay for all of these new "free" women's services mandated by Obama?
These types of mandates is one of the reasons insurance is so high, you can't go out say I only want insurance for catastrophic illness which is what insurnace should be for in the first place. Instead you get stuck with a plan with a whole array of things it covers...... nice for those that can afford it but not so good when you can't afford it.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:48 AM
 
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Co-pays and deductibles keep hypochondriacs from wasting a valuable doctors time by showing up every time they get a sniffle or cut their finger.

Without some out-of-pocket expense, people would engage in dangerous activities that may cause them harm knowing that the only "cost" to them is a few days off from work.
Actually studies have shown preventitive healthcare is more cost effective.
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