Obamacare to cover ALL birth control pills-NO copay! (bill, business, American)
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Finally someone who agrees with me. Minus the first part, I totally agree.
I simply do not believe that people should have children they would have starve to death unless the taxpayers are forced to provide for them.
Birth control pills are NOT a reliable form of birth control because obviously there are more welfare babies today than there were before the birth control pill came out.
In many places now, more children are born into welfare programs, more to Medicaid and foodstamps than are born to parents who can support them. Dead beat fathers and welfare queens should not go on breeding like stray dogs and cats.
I don't believe in forced sterilization, but it should be required for those who want to go on receiving welfare handouts.
I simply do not believe that people should have children they would have starve to death unless the taxpayers are forced to provide for them.
Birth control pills are NOT a reliable form of birth control because obviously there are more welfare babies today than there were before the birth control pill came out.
In many places now, more children are born into welfare programs, more to Medicaid and foodstamps than are born to parents who can support them. Dead beat fathers and welfare queens should not go on breeding like stray dogs and cats.
I don't believe in forced sterilization, but it should be required for those who want to go on receiving welfare handouts.
Again, don't agree with sterilization, but love everything else you are saying. No they are not a reliable form of birth conrtol, and the fact that the birth rate is up since the BCP came out is proof of that.
I simply do not believe that people should have children they would have starve to death unless the taxpayers are forced to provide for them.
Birth control pills are NOT a reliable form of birth control because obviously there are more welfare babies today than there were before the birth control pill came out.
In many places now, more children are born into welfare programs, more to Medicaid and foodstamps than are born to parents who can support them. Dead beat fathers and welfare queens should not go on breeding like stray dogs and cats.I don't believe in forced sterilization, but it should be required for those who want to go on receiving welfare handouts.
I totally agree, if they have two kids and want welfare, mom and dad should both have to agree to sterilization to collect benefits. At the very least, the woman should be required to use Norplant or get an IUD. They could have them removed after they have proven themselves capable of supporting themselves and their children on their own. {For at least two years for example.} If they want more than two children, that should provide the motivation for them to learn personal responsibility..... to learn how to get up every day, go to work and earn a paycheck.
However, I don't agree with the statement that birth control pills aren't effective.
Many teens think having a baby is the be all and end all. They have babies on purpose.....someone who will love them and make them feel important.....they think.
Also, many girls {and boys, for that matter} who are brought up in welfare families think having a baby and going on welfare is the normal thing to do.
Another reason, men who bail on their children.
Almost all of the reasons someone ends up on welfare can be blamed on one thing........ irresponsibility......not BC pill failure.
The BC pill is one of the most effective forms of contraception available when used correctly...... and that is a FACT. Certainly way more effective than NFP.
And.....I would like to point out.....NFP IS a form of birth control.
Yes, that should be required of all those getting government handouts.
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Originally Posted by malamute
I simply do not believe that people should have children they would have starve to death unless the taxpayers are forced to provide for them.
Birth control pills are NOT a reliable form of birth control because obviously there are more welfare babies today than there were before the birth control pill came out.
In many places now, more children are born into welfare programs, more to Medicaid and foodstamps than are born to parents who can support them. Dead beat fathers and welfare queens should not go on breeding like stray dogs and cats.
I don't believe in forced sterilization, but it should be required for those who want to go on receiving welfare handouts.
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Originally Posted by Annie53
I totally agree, if they have two kids and want welfare, mom and dad should both have to agree to sterilization to collect benefits. At the very least, the woman should be required to use Norplant or get an IUD. They could have them removed after they have proven themselves capable of supporting themselves and their children on their own. {For at least two years for example.} If they want more than two children, that should provide the motivation for them to learn personal responsibility..... to learn how to get up every day, go to work and earn a paycheck.
However, I don't agree with the statement that birth control pills aren't effective.
Many teens think having a baby is the be all and end all. They have babies on purpose.....someone who will love them and make them feel important.....they think.
Also, many girls {and boys, for that matter} who are brought up in welfare families think having a baby and going on welfare is the normal thing to do.
Another reason, men who bail on their children.
Almost all of the reasons someone ends up on welfare can be blamed on one thing........ irresponsibility......not BC pill failure.
The BC pill is one of the most effective forms of contraception available when used correctly...... and that is a FACT. Certainly way more effective than NFP.
And.....I would like to point out.....NFP IS a form of birth control.
All three of these taken together:
This thread is not about medicaid or other government programs.
It is not solely about teens using birth control; it is about birth control for all insured women of childbearing age.
Again, don't agree with sterilization, but love everything else you are saying. No they are not a reliable form of birth conrtol, and the fact that the birth rate is up since the BCP came out is proof of that.
That's incorrect; the birth rate is not up, as you can see in the chart below. The birth control pill was approved in 1960, as I recall, and was available shortly thereafter. See what happened around that time period?
That's incorrect; the birth rate is not up, as you can see in the chart below. The birth control pill was approved in 1960, as I recall, and was available shortly thereafter. See what happened around that time period?
That would be an incorrect conclusion.
Your birth rate declined not because of the Pill, but rather because of growing affluence.
What was special about the year 1961?
That was the year in which 50% of Americans lived in urban areas, and 50% lived in rural areas. What percentage of Americans live in rural areas now?
According to the 2000 Census, only 20% live in rural areas.
The point, however, is, that for whatever reason, the birth rate now is much less than what it historically has been. So, essentially this entire thread is a conservative talking point. And don't conservatives love their talking points. However, given the perception that most conservatives have that we are up to our eyeballs in indigent babies, why are they never in favor of sterilization? Birth control pills are junk. Forty year old technology for something as important as family planning? Condoms are what...3,000 year old technology... ... Doesn't humanity deserve better in the millennium?? Most of you don't think so. That is the problem.
Your birth rate declined not because of the Pill, but rather because of growing affluence.
What was special about the year 1961?
That was the year in which 50% of Americans lived in urban areas, and 50% lived in rural areas. What percentage of Americans live in rural areas now?
According to the 2000 Census, only 20% live in rural areas.
So you are trying to tell us that widespread availability of easy contraception had no bearing on birth rates?
Go on, pull the other one.
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Minus the first part, I totally agree.
