S&P downgrades US debt from AAA..... (polls, fence, amendment)
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Look, you can blame the Dems all you want. The fact is the TP and GOP refused to compromise on revenue increases to reach the $4 tril in cuts Obama was willing to compromise on.
It was their way or the highway. We are now starting to see the effects of "my way or the highway" politics.
WHAT CUTS WERE MADE? The rating agencies just called our governments bluff. Wise up will ya. Stop spouting off on issues you simply can't seem to grasp.
The republicans were the ones sounding the alarm over these continued huge deficits over the past couple years. We were called fear mongers.
Whatyousay, in all sincerity, you were the ones sounding the alarms bells. However, the GOP undercut its credibility with its no tax and spend presidents. Bush, Bush I and Reagan... sorry, they weren't fiscally conservative.
Evil, I know you are a partisan hack, but perhaps you will free your brain for just long enough to allow a single ray of truth in. Obama was pushing for a $4 trillion deal. He wanted to get there with $3 trillion in cuts, and $1 trillion in tax increases. The overwhelming majority of Americans support this. I think many responsible Republicans support this. John Boehner seemed to support this. The Tea Bags did not. Rather than get behind a bill that could have averted this catastrophe, which will be felt by ALL of us, they spinned their ideological wheels pushing for futile measures and political theater. This is their fault. They are going to get the blame for this.
(If Bush weren't such a rotten coward, he'd man up and take some of the heat on himself though.)
Did all the Tea Party people vote against this sad law? Why no, many of them went with the establishment people in the other parties and voted for that law. About 20 of them in the House voted against it and they were the only ones. It is getting more and more sad to hear you squeal about the Tea Party being the ones that screwed all this around. Enough Republicans went with the Dems in the House to pass it without them holding it back.
How in hell can you call someone else a political hack when that is all you are seeming to be?
Ask yourself a question. How big is our problem? Where do we spend the most money? Doesn't it make sense to address that problem first? In the past, the answer has been raise taxes. We have never, ever made meaningful cuts to entitlements. We have made meaningful taxincreases, yet we are where we are. Let's try meaningful entitlement cuts. If they are done and we need tax increases, I'm on board.
Whatyousay, in all sincerity, you were the ones sounding the alarms bells. However, the GOP undercut its credibility with its no tax and spend presidents. Bush, Bush I and Reagan... sorry, they weren't fiscally conservative.
McCain tried and was rebuffed numerous times as a crackpot when he sounded the alarm on the housing crisis.
OK. So you have a chance to cut the debt by $4 tril and what do you do?
Hi-jack the plan. Refusing to compromise. Nice work. Good in theory, horrible in practice.
Where was this $4T cut plan? A campaign speech or more useless rhetoric? Please, if you actually believe that a $4T cut actually existed in the place the rest of the world calls reality, then I've got a bridge to sell you.
Look, you can blame the Dems all you want. The fact is the TP and GOP refused to compromise on revenue increases to reach the $4 tril in cuts Obama was willing to compromise on.
It was their way or the highway. We are now starting to see the effects of "my way or the highway" politics.
I know you don't believe in trickle down economics, but raising taxes in a down economy would be disastrous.
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