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Old 08-06-2011, 11:20 AM
 
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They are still trying to contain Chernobyl..........

"French construction company Novarka is working on a replacement, the New Safe Confinement (NSC), which Schmieman helped to design. Because the reactor is still radioactive, *architects designed the NSC with worker safety in mind. The arch will not be built over the *sarcophagus but will be *assembled nearby from prefabricated segments. Workers will use hydraulic jacks to slide the arch about 300 meters along Teflon bearings until it covers the sarcophagus. Once engineers seal the reactor, they will remotely maneuver three robotic cranes inside the NSC to dismantle the sarcophagus and reactor and to clean up any leftover radioactive dust.
Novarka aims to finish fabricating the NSC by the summer of 2014, at a cost of $2.1 billion from 29 countries. It is expected to last at least 100 years."


Steel Rainbow: Metal Arch Ready to Seal Chernobyl Reactor: Scientific American
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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If anyone has been following this they have found radiation contamination in about all their food. Contaminated beef got into the food chaing and they're hoarding rice from last year now.

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Public hoarding old rice over fallout fears


By KYODO
Kyodo
Consumers are starting to hoard last year's rice over concerns the next crops may be contaminated with radioactive materials released from the Fukushima No. 1 power plant, retailers said Friday.
The Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Ministry is working to establish a system for ensuring the safety of rice ahead of the autumn harvest, with plans to inspect the crop in two stages.
The buying spree indicates deep public distrust in the government's handling of food safety issues amid the nuclear crisis following a scare over contaminated beef.
A rice selling business in Nerima Ward, Tokyo, said regular customers began asking it to keep rice in stock just around the time the ministry disclosed its rice inspection plans Wednesday.
A supermarket in Koto Ward said rice is selling at twice the normal pace, while various brands were mostly sold out at a nearby shopping center.
"It's like a rice panic," said a store clerk at a supermarket in Chuo Ward, noting that given the strong demand for old rice, wholesalers are hesitant about quickly releasing their stock."


Public hoarding old rice over fallout fears | The Japan Times Online
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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Dr. Chris Busby, world famous physicist, said tests conducted at the respected Harwell Radiation Laboratory in England demonstrate that
Well there you go. What is this guy "world famous" for exactly?

Christopher Busby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Christopher Busby (born 1 September 1945) is a British scientist known for his controversial theories about the negative health effects of very low-dose ionising radiation.

The books were criticised in the Journal of Radiological Protection as "erroneous in consequence of various mistakes".[26][27] According to Richard Wakeford, the editor-in-chief of the journal, a fellow CERRIE committee member representing the nuclear industy, and a specialist in the health effects of low-dose radiation (formerly with British Nuclear Fuels)[28]

... much of Chris Busby's work is self-published and difficult to access; he seems mainly to avoid publication in the recognised scientific literature, which presents difficulties for a proper review of the evidence underlying his conclusions.".[29]


Sounds like attention seeking crackpot.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:34 AM
 
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So you want to start some ridiculous debate about credentials? Go do some looking for yourself about what's going on over there instead of trying to take the subject off on a tangent. Jeez so only 500K will die then and the media and government keeps lying about it. That make you happy now?
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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They are still trying to contain Chernobyl..........

"French construction company Novarka is working on a replacement, the New Safe Confinement (NSC), which Schmieman helped to design. Because the reactor is still radioactive, *architects designed the NSC with worker safety in mind. The arch will not be built over the *sarcophagus but will be *assembled nearby from prefabricated segments. Workers will use hydraulic jacks to slide the arch about 300 meters along Teflon bearings until it covers the sarcophagus. Once engineers seal the reactor, they will remotely maneuver three robotic cranes inside the NSC to dismantle the sarcophagus and reactor and to clean up any leftover radioactive dust.
Novarka aims to finish fabricating the NSC by the summer of 2014, at a cost of $2.1 billion from 29 countries. It is expected to last at least 100 years."


Steel Rainbow: Metal Arch Ready to Seal Chernobyl Reactor: Scientific American
2014!!! WTH they should be a full out effort to get this done ASAP not take our time
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:46 AM
 
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Just like what is happening in Japan happened then and there. Hit the news and everybody howled about it for a while then it just went away and still is. Meanwhile the entire area is still a wasteland and will be for hundreds of years. Problem with the one in Japan is that the island has such a huge population. If they don't contain it soon the whole north could be a wasteland on that bump.

I still think we blew that plant up. We were in the cold war at the time and the cost Russian had to put out tipped their economy over the edge to collapse. Just my tin hat in me coming out.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:49 AM
 
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If I remember after they told us all was well and everything would be fine they were dumping boron into the mess to try and neutralize the thing. Then they were talking about building some sort of boron dome around it. Who knows what they're gonna do. Nobody seems to be too worried about it though.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:56 AM
 
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So you want to start some ridiculous debate about credentials? Go do some looking for yourself about what's going on over there instead of trying to take the subject off on a tangent.
When you have a small minority making the dramatic claims you are supporting, it is reasonable to note the source has reputation as crackpot who's results are often derided by the scientific community.

He's a self-appointed "expert" nothing more, and you are buying his garbage.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:06 PM
 
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The crackpots say anywhere from 60K to over 200K died as a result of Chernobyl. What do you say?
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Just like what is happening in Japan happened then and there. Hit the news and everybody howled about it for a while then it just went away and still is. Meanwhile the entire area is still a wasteland and will be for hundreds of years. Problem with the one in Japan is that the island has such a huge population. If they don't contain it soon the whole north could be a wasteland on that bump.

I still think we blew that plant up. We were in the cold war at the time and the cost Russian had to put out tipped their economy over the edge to collapse. Just my tin hat in me coming out.
no we did not blow up the plant chernobyl it had major flaws in the design and they were doing a test on the core and when they wanted to drop power but it during the test they had a power surge and attempt was made at an emergency shutdown, a more extreme spike in power output occurred which led to the rupture of a reactor vessel as well as a series of explosions. This event exposed the graphite moderator components of the reactor to air and they ignited; the resulting fire sent a plume of radioactive fallout into the atmosphere and over an extensive area.

‪Chernobyl disaster incident PART 1‬‏ - YouTube
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