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Old 08-06-2011, 11:36 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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What are you smoking? Obama is right of center by world standards. He is not a liberal. All the most successful nations in the world are run by liberal political ideology.
What you call liberal is actually socialist in nature. BTW, have you noticed what the world economy looks like? It pretty well sucks at the present time too. In regards to the world's fastest growing economy, china, well they've pretty much dropped the socialist economic model for one that is more capitalist in nature which could explain just why their economy is still growing while ours isn't. Of course they stuck with the socialist one party model for governing if only because socialism is all about controling the populace anyway imho.

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Roubini: ‘Perfect Storm’ May Rock World Economy by 2013
Sunday, 12 Jun 2011 01:08 PM


A “perfect storm” of fiscal woe in the U.S., a slowdown in China, European debt restructuring and stagnation in Japan may converge on the global economy, New York University professor Nouriel Roubini said.

There’s a one-in-three chance the factors will combine to stunt growth from 2013, Roubini, who predicted the global financial crisis, said in a June 11 interview in Singapore. Other possible outcomes are “anemic but OK” global growth or an “optimistic” scenario in which the expansion improves.

“There are already elements of fragility,” he said. “Everybody’s kicking the can down the road of too much public and private debt. The can is becoming heavier and heavier, and bigger on debt, and all these problems may come to a head by 2013 at the latest.”

Elevated U.S. unemployment, a surge in oil and food prices, rising interest rates in Asia and trade disruption from Japan’s record earthquake threaten to sap the world economy. Stocks worldwide have lost more than $3.3 trillion since the beginning of May, and Roubini said financial markets by the middle of next year could start worrying about a convergence of risks in 2013.

The MSCI AC World Index has tumbled 4.7 percent this month on concern recent data, including an increase in the U.S. unemployment rate to 9.1 percent in May, signal the global economy is losing steam. U.S. Treasuries rose last week, pushing two-year note yields down for a ninth week in the longest stretch of decreases since February 2008, on bets the Federal Reserve will maintain monetary stimulus.............
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:38 AM
 
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Cutting spending and lowering taxes are Republican practices and traits (which are also associated with common sense), something this "president" does not embrace. He had to come to an agreement this past week to appease both parties.

Do we really want four more years of higher taxes, more spending, and, ultimately, more debt??
Did he sign a bill to cut spending a week ago or not?
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I, for one, do not crave economic misery or uncertainty for my children. Obviously, Obama is incompetent and incapable of addressing the economic woes of the nation and seems completely unwilling to change from failed policy. That being said, four more years of an Obama presidency would only continue with the same policies and put the nation deeper and deeper into economic trouble.

Why in the world would any rational person want four more years of this? I would think that even liberals would want a strong economy, low unemployment, and someone to address our debt. Yet, most liberals seem to really like what Obama is doing.

Why four more years of this?
You're right. What we need is for the Tea Party to get the hell out of the way and re-elect Obama with the stipulation that he fulfill his campaign promises by 2016. We don't need four more years of republican/tea party constipation.

In spending enough money to put America back to work we would be providing a much larger tax base that would deal with the debt. The bastard obstructionists who are too shortsighted to understand this need to crawl back in their slimy little holes and let the adults deal with the problems.

If you read the S&P analysis of the downgrade, you may have seen the note about the republicans being unwilling to allow the Bush tax cuts(read: borrowed money to use for vote buying) to expire. Nice job, 'pubs. Would you like to return us to the Stone Age? It certainly looks like you're trying.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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Lets see... We have Communist totalitarians on the left and Christian Jihadists on the right...

Both choices are so tempting.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:49 AM
 
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The whole premise of this thread is ridiculous and serves as proof that right-leaning people don't understand much. Their description of reality shows how badly they are able to connect the dots. Why is it that if someone holds a different view than a righwinger, the implied motivation for that view is to destroy the country? To write, with a straight face I would imagine, that liberals love the country's current misery and want more of it is just mind-boggling.

Why bother having a discussion with such irrational thinkers? Why do I bother, I ask myself. Their view is apparently The Golden Path (insert angelic choir here) while any, ANY dissension from that view is painted black and called the devil. Because liberals want to raise taxes on the wealthy (back to what they were, how awful is that?) they are demonized as horrible people. Forget the $2T+ the tax cuts cost all of us, $2T+ that would have really helped out in these dark times.

Liberals are suffering as badly as you conservatives are. If you can't see that, you have your head someplace that would make bathrooms difficult to use. Instead of pointing blame unnecessarily and further dividing the country, solve the freaking problem using common sense and compromise. I know that's so difficult for you. Here, we can help...
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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Cutting spending and lowering taxes are Republican practices and traits (which are also associated with common sense)
Cutting spending? Have you been hiding under a rock since '00?
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:56 AM
 
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Cutting spending? Have you been hiding under a rock since '00?
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:57 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Cutting spending and lowering taxes are Republican practices and traits (which are also associated with common sense), something this "president" does not embrace. He had to come to an agreement this past week to appease both parties.

Do we really want four more years of higher taxes, more spending, and, ultimately, more debt??
Cutting spending IS NOT a Republican trait, cutting spending on things they oppose is a Republican trait. As far as taxes go, even the sainted Ronnie raised taxes several times during his tenure.

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Old 08-06-2011, 11:57 AM
 
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I, for one, do not crave economic misery or uncertainty for my children. Obviously, Obama is incompetent and incapable of addressing the economic woes of the nation and seems completely unwilling to change from failed policy. That being said, four more years of an Obama presidency would only continue with the same policies and put the nation deeper and deeper into economic trouble.

Why in the world would any rational person want four more years of this? I would think that even liberals would want a strong economy, low unemployment, and someone to address our debt. Yet, most liberals seem to really like what Obama is doing.

Why four more years of this?
Real Liberals actually wanted four years of this....

Creating a single-payer not-for-profit system of universal health care that provides full coverage for all Americans by passage of the United States National Health Care Act.
The immediate, phased withdrawal of all U.S. forces from Iraq; replacing them with an international security force.
Guaranteed quality education for all; including free pre-kindergarten and college for all who want it.
Immediate withdrawal from the World Trade Organization (WTO) and North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).
Immediate repeal of the USA PATRIOT Act.
Fostering a world of international cooperation.
Abolishing the death penalty.
Environmental renewal and clean energy.
Creating a moratorium on Genetically Modified Organism (GMO).
Implementation of H.R. 676, which integrates traditional medicine with complementary and alternative medicine (CAM).
Ban offshore drilling.
Halt all Biochemical Aerial Spraying of Pesticides and other toxins.
Preventing the privatization of social security.
Providing full social security benefits at age 65.
Creating a cabinet-level "Department of Peace"
Ratifying the ABM Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol.
Introducing reforms to bring about instant-runoff voting.
Protecting a woman's "right to choose" while decreasing the number of abortions performed in the U.S.
Lowering the voting age to 16
Ending the War on Drugs.
Legalizing same-sex marriage.
Strongly promoting workers' rights.
Ending the H-1B and L-1 visa Programs
Restoring rural communities and family farms.
Strengthening gun control.
Legalizing medicinal marijuana and decriminalizing non-medical possession.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/20221177-post1.html
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:18 PM
 
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I'm no fan of Obama, and if there were a rational, intelligent, non-religious nutcase as a contender, I'd have no problem voting for them.

But your side insists on putting people like Bachmann, Palin, or Perry in the presidential seat, and I will not elect a right wing fundamentalist, theocratic pushing, looney into the Presidency, no matter how gosh awful Obama is.
But, you will vote for a left wing fundamentalist, theocratic pushing, looney into the Presidency,
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