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Old 08-09-2011, 10:45 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I never said he was a saint or he wasn't armed but he never fired a shot, that's all I am saying, and it is a bit suspect how the police ''rolled with'' the we were shot at card
Not really...it isn't like police guns sound different to criminals guns...

So as soon as the shooting started,no-one would know who was shooting at who.
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Old 08-09-2011, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Scotland
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Not really...it isn't like police guns sound different to criminals guns...

So as soon as the shooting started,no-one would know who was shooting at who.
Your comment makes no sense whatsoever, they are trained firearm officers, if he raised the gun towards them then fair enough, take him out, but if they have shot this man dead when he posed no threat to them, whoever pulled the trigger should be charged with murder, there is stories going around facebook and twitter that he was a gangster who was causing the police a lot of problems, but they couldn't pin anything on him, so they have assassinated him more or less, I think we will be hearing a LOT more about this in the coming days
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Old 08-09-2011, 11:02 PM
 
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Your comment makes no sense whatsoever, they are trained firearm officers, if he raised the gun towards them then fair enough, take him out, but if they have shot this man dead when he posed no threat to them, whoever pulled the trigger should be charged with murder, there is stories going around facebook and twitter that he was a gangster who was causing the police a lot of problems, but they couldn't pin anything on him, so they have assassinated him more or less, I think we will be hearing a LOT more about this in the coming days
And we have to love the way you feel so outraged that the police shot a criminal carrying a weapon with the intent to hurt others. Meanwhile not a peep from you when the same kind of thugs kill innocent people for a lot less. Despicable.
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Old 08-09-2011, 11:04 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Your comment makes no sense whatsoever, they are trained firearm officers, if he raised the gun towards them then fair enough, take him out, but if they have shot this man dead when he posed no threat to them, whoever pulled the trigger should be charged with murder, there is stories going around facebook and twitter that he was a gangster who was causing the police a lot of problems, but they couldn't pin anything on him, so they have assassinated him more or less, I think we will be hearing a LOT more about this in the coming days
They pull him over,shots are fired(a shot is a shot,you can't tell who fired it),so the police respond in kind.

It happens.

Ever heard gunshots close up,they are quite loud.
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Old 08-09-2011, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Your comment makes no sense whatsoever, they are trained firearm officers, if he raised the gun towards them then fair enough, take him out, but if they have shot this man dead when he posed no threat to them, whoever pulled the trigger should be charged with murder, there is stories going around facebook and twitter that he was a gangster who was causing the police a lot of problems, but they couldn't pin anything on him, so they have assassinated him more or less, I think we will be hearing a LOT more about this in the coming days
There was a handgun found there so he may very well have pulled a gun but never got off a shot.
He was both a gangster and a drug dealer.

Mark Duggan handgun tests show conversion into lethal weapon | UK news | The Guardian
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Old 08-09-2011, 11:42 PM
 
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Why is this important? I mean, why should i as an American care about this story? We've got big enough problems right here.
Because the same thing could be happening here soon, maybe right where you live.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:41 AM
 
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How is a guy who opened fire on London police a victim in your book? Handguns are banned in Britain yet he not only managed to have one but fired on police from the cab in which he was a passenger. The guy was the perpatrator of violence and received a response of equal force by the police he chose to fire upon. The injured officer was the victim, not the dead perp. .
Once again your are TOTALLY WRONG WHEN IT COMES TO THE ACTUAL FACTS!

Gangster' shot dead by police sparking riots did NOT fire at officers

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Mark Duggan - the police shooting victim whose death sparked riots in Tottenham - did not fire at officers before he was killed, tests have suggested.

Ballistic analysis has indicated that a handgun found at the scene where Mr Duggan was killed by police had not been used, the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) revealed today.


The 29-year-old, said to be a key member of a crack-dealing gang, died from a single gunshot wound to the chest last Thursday.

It was the trigger for Saturday night's rioting in Tottenham which, in turn, led to the further unrest on Sunday and last night.

Investigations show that Mr Duggan's death came after two shots were fired by a Scotland Yard CO19 firearms officer.

The initial results confirmed reports that a bullet found lodged in a police radio at the scene was police issue.

Forensic officers have told the IPCC that it may not be possible to 'say for certain' whether the handgun found near Mr Duggan was fired.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:47 AM
 
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The benefits of multiculturalism are bestowed to London.

Shops and Cars Burn in Antipolice Riot in London - NYTimes.com

Riot and mounted police arrived, but by 2 a.m. groups of young men, ranging in age from 16 to 30, still faced off with police who were behind plastic shields. Tottenham is an area of mostly poor minorities; a significant portion of the population is black. “How many black people have to die around here?” one of the youths, referring to Mr. Duggan. He would only give his name as Pablo. “I hate the police,” he said.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the poster that "claims" to be Black?

If so, talk about irony.
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:03 AM
 
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Because the same thing could be happening here soon, maybe right where you live.
It already has begun... the violent flash mobs which have been wreaking havoc on cities like Philadelphia and Chicago. Things haven't been looking too good in the world lately. Anyone else concur?
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:32 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Once again your are TOTALLY WRONG WHEN IT COMES TO THE ACTUAL FACTS!

Gangster' shot dead by police sparking riots did NOT fire at officers
No...it is SUGGESTED that he did not fire at police.

He was of course ARMED.
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Earlier it had been revealed Mr Duggan was carrying a blank-firing handgun converted to fire live bullets when he was killed.
The father-of-four was armed with the pistol converted to fire live bullets when he was shot by armed police officers.
Such a weapon is popular among London's drug gang members.
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