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Listen. Just so you all know. I'm not buying that graph that is the new rallying icon of the Teapublican's. I am also not buying the new revisionist history that Bush inherited no surplus from Clinton. He certainly did not inherit 10 Trillion in defecit. Can we cut the crap for once and get real? Prolly too much to ask. Obama by all accounts friendly and not, is responsible for less than 2 Trillion of deficit. Makes sense given the short time he has had to be the Spender in Chief. Not to mention the scrutiny under which he makes his purchases. Tripled the spending of the Bush administration? A five year old would see through that graph in five minutes. To be against the repeal of tax cuts in an economy as anemic as this one is to be anti-American. It might even be treason.
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You have the right to be wrong, but dont dare ask us to cut out the crap for posting facts. Just because you aint buying it, thats an indication of a problem YOU have, not those of us who live in reality know better.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
BS. I post charts with CBO and OMB data, etc.
You clowns just spew your leftist propaganda talking points with NO factual support whatsoever.
Non stop from these people..
They say "x", you show them that you are wrong, they come back with "your wrong", without any evidence what so ever, or if they do have "evidence", you quickly point out why their graphs and charts are wrong, and then they come back with, "I'm not buying it", you're stupid, haters, racist, want grandma to starve etc, when they figure out you are right, but they cant come to admit it.
Do you have any idea how much wealth is controlled by the rich? The top 1% control 90% of the wealth, why wouldn't you expect them to pay a higer percentage. The wealthy are doing quite well compared to anyone else in this country,
You mean the very same Warren Buffet who supported Obama, and has seen his wealth increase by 20%, in the last 2-3 years alone?
You do understand that we tax income, and not wealth in america right? Which has me wondering what the hell ones wealth has to do with the discussion.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
Class warfare?
One of the richest Americans, Warren Buffett, replies to that notion:
“There’s class warfare, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.â€
Using liberal policies against them. Your display above which discusses wealth, and not income is a prime example. Did you know Warren Buffets salary at Birkshire Hathaway is $100K a year? You can increase the tax rate to 100% and STILL not affect his wealth..
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
Yes education is a great thing, continue to worry about the top 5% as if there is any need for protection.
Ahhh, typical liberal, dazed and confused. People arent "concerned" for the wealthy, people are trying to point out why you cant comprehend why liberal policies are not harmful to them. The concern is for the nation and you dont build up a nation by destroying its citizens.. ANY of them.
Obama is a poor president and has no conviction or strong views. However the the tea party and regular Republicans are the major reason for the current problems.
Obama is a poor president and has no conviction or strong views. However the the tea party and regular Republicans are the major reason for the current problems.
Postings like this make me understand why our country is in the condition it currently is in.
Just to set you straight, the Tea Partiers wanted $400B in cuts a year, the Democrats said no, you can only have $90B a year in cuts in FUTURE GROWTH, the S&P downgrades us because we didnt cut enough, and somehow in that brain of yours, its the Tea partiers fault we didnt get enough cuts..
Republicans have been warning for a DECADE, that an economic collapse was coming, and Democrats refused to listen. They blocked any federal reform to limit bad mortgages, in fact they called for more of them to take place.. And you think its the GOP to blame?
Postings like this make me understand why our country is in the condition it currently is in.
Just to set you straight, the Tea Partiers wanted $400B in cuts a year, the Democrats said no, you can only have $90B a year in cuts in FUTURE GROWTH, the S&P downgrades us because we didnt cut enough, and somehow in that brain of yours, its the Tea partiers fault we didnt get enough cuts..
Republicans have been warning for a DECADE, that an economic collapse was coming, and Democrats refused to listen. They blocked any federal reform to limit bad mortgages, in fact they called for more of them to take place.. And you think its the GOP to blame?
No, S&P made it clear that they downgraded us because of the stunt the Republicans and Tea party people did. This stunt means that the US could default in the future, as hostage politics has entered american politics. They can't trust us this won't happen again.
They also said there can be no real reduction in deficit and debt without raising taxes.
Haha more obfuscation of the facts by the plutocratic filthy rich. America really doesn't have a Presidental leadership problem..........IT HAS A DEBT PROBLEM! Wake the 'fk up people! It doesn't matter WHO you have in office. Do you not understand your own rigged debt based monetary system called the Federal Reserve?????????? My god I don't get it! We have a PRIVATE BANKING ELITE who create our money supply OUT OF THIN AIR, out of NOTHING and then lend that money back to us at interest. This has been going on since 1913 when the robber baron banking parasites pushed through the Federal Reserve Act. It's all A SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!! Direct attention away from the REAL problem and the REAL people who are controlling everything and keeping us under their boot heel of economic tyranny. It's the BANKSTERS! I mean I know Americans are pretty retarded in general when it comes to their own history........but my god what the hell do you think the Founding Fathers were championing all those years..........guys like Jefferson, Jackson etc. They warned us of this day.
Haha more obfuscation of the facts by the plutocratic filthy rich. America really doesn't have a Presidental leadership problem..........IT HAS A DEBT PROBLEM! Wake the 'fk up people! It doesn't matter WHO you have in office. Do you not understand your own rigged debt based monetary system called the Federal Reserve?????????? My god I don't get it! We have a PRIVATE BANKING ELITE who create our money supply OUT OF THIN AIR, out of NOTHING and then lend that money back to us at interest. This has been going on since 1913 when the robber baron banking parasites pushed through the Federal Reserve Act. It's all A SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!! Direct attention away from the REAL problem and the REAL people who are controlling everything and keeping us under their boot heel of economic tyranny. It's the BANKSTERS!
Exactly!
The problem is, the left is placing the blame on far too many, labeling ALL of 'the rich' as evil , when in truth the problem is really only Obama's bankster puppet masters (Wall Street banksters were many of Obama's top 2008 campaign contributors).
Libs/Dems want to misdirect blame at an entire demographic (the rich ) so that people don't realize the problem is really just Obama's bankster benefactors.
You mean the very same Warren Buffet who supported Obama, and has seen his wealth increase by 20%, in the last 2-3 years alone?
You do understand that we tax income, and not wealth in america right? Which has me wondering what the hell ones wealth has to do with the discussion.
Using liberal policies against them. Your display above which discusses wealth, and not income is a prime example. Did you know Warren Buffets salary at Birkshire Hathaway is $100K a year? You can increase the tax rate to 100% and STILL not affect his wealth..
Buffett didn't need Obama, Bush or anyone else, he is financial legend. I think you're making my case and his by stating his wealth increase. His income from salary is nothing, do you have any idea how much stock he can shelter by the lower capital gains rate?
Do you understand that the wealthy also have huge amounts of income, for some reason wealth and income seem to go hand in hand, and yes you could raise the top tax rate and not change wealth, at least not this year, but it would still be a great start.
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, when in truth the problem is really only Obama's bankster puppet masters (Wall Street banksters were many of Obama's top 2008 campaign contributors).
