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Old 08-07-2011, 12:26 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The only excuse about not legalizing marijuana is that it employs millions in keeping people locked up and the enforcement of unenforceable laws.

So if you are ok with a police state, simply for the reason of keeping people employed, you have a argument. Of course I disagree with that perspective.

But there is no other good reason to keep it as a schedule 1 narcotic.

Totally agree!


Have they not learned from the days of Al Capone?
This is worse and on a global scale, if our government wants to fight it.
It was filling our jails back then.
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:31 PM
 
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I asked a similar question a few weeks ago:

How come the small government deficit cutting Tea Party Republicans don't end the $45 billion War on Drugs?

There are still many many Drug Warriors out there who are against the decriminalization (not legalization) of drug use.
We're just talking about marijuana here. That's the only one I'd be in favor of legalizing...and taxing the hell out of.
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Northeast NJ
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How are you going to tax something that grows like weeds once established?

Everyone can and will grow their own if they chose that to be their vice.
Just like everyone who smokes cigarettes grows their own tobacco and everyone who drinks alcohol brews their own.
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Just like everyone who smokes cigarettes grows their own tobacco and everyone who drinks alcohol brews their own.
Tobacco is considerably harder to grow then marijuana. And actually the home brewing world has exploded.
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:45 PM
 
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We're just talking about marijuana here. That's the only one I'd be in favor of legalizing...and taxing the hell out of.
I support the the decriminalization of all drugs. This means ending penalties and jail time for drug users. I don't think we should legalize drugs though.
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:52 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Just like everyone who smokes cigarettes grows their own tobacco and everyone who drinks alcohol brews their own.


Laws prohibit growing tobacco. You have to be a selected and given permission by our government, who has always taxed tobacco in this nation. Even when it was under Kings rule.
So, over 400 years of seed and harvest management, the government has a handle on tobacco.
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Old 08-07-2011, 01:07 PM
 
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I would think that legalization would create jobs. The farmers who grow illegally would still grow and there would be a market for more people in states other than CA to grow, set up stores, etc. Most private lawyers don't deal with simple possession cases. In most states, it can be either a petty offense (no lawyer required), person just pleads guilty on first appearance, or is a public defender case. Trafficking would still be illegal as it is for tobacco (without the proper permits) and alcohol (without the proper permits).
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Old 08-07-2011, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I would think that legalization would create jobs. The farmers who grow illegally would still grow and there would be a market for more people in states other than CA to grow, set up stores, etc. Most private lawyers don't deal with simple possession cases. In most states, it can be either a petty offense (no lawyer required), person just pleads guilty on first appearance, or is a public defender case. Trafficking would still be illegal as it is for tobacco (without the proper permits) and alcohol (without the proper permits).
Not really. Growing on massive scales, energy demands would drop alone. Machines replacing people, etc.

Legalization has been followed by decreased use almost everywhere. Demand falls, big farms take over, less jobs.

Not to mention the millions of less used for enforcement. Prison population would plummet.
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Old 08-07-2011, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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Everyone who isn't a complete reactionary knows this, but no politician is willing to move on this, especially not now.
I believe the government will eventually legalize marijuana. At the local level, many states have made dramatic inroads in this direction and until very recently the Obama Administrations position was that the Fed had other more important things to be concerned with.

The Administration recently reversed itself and this summer aggressively started pursuing suppliers for Medicinal Marijuana Dispensaries. Their primary complaint? Private industry filling this market niche were making too much money.

Government does not have money other than that which they confiscate from their citizens. I think our government is trying to change that model
and "own" profitable ventures.
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Old 08-07-2011, 02:10 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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Pretty sure that is what fuels this mess.


After prohibition was dropped, the cops didn't have much to do but harass the blacks, until the hippies come along. Then they were back in business.... Big business.
Marijuana is a jobs creator. Just think of the job losses if it were to be legalized.
A lot of lawyers would have to find a real job.



The job of the police is(should only be) to make sure we don't kill each other and to catch those that do kill and those that feel the need to take from another.

That is it! Not to save us from ourselves.

ya but on the other hand look how much new jobs it would create.. and as far as everyone turning into a farmer, i doubt it.!!! people that live in cities will buy the product,, and it will create direct revenue.. if you add up all the cost to the gov for fighting a hundred year war, it's asronomical.!!!! wasted law enforcement time, wasted court time wasted jail time, fighting wars you cant win is unprodutive for a economy,, not to mention all the crime it creates by keeping it illegal.. just look at mexico!!! there economy is growing faster than ours,>> the lions share of the drug money goes right back to mexico, it's time to reverse that trend and keep the money in the usa.. hypothetical>> lets just say that what you said in previous post was accurate,, that 90 percent of the pot smoking populus started growing their own pot??? if it was legalized all the money that they used to spend to buy expensive imported weed would be circulating throughout (our) economy,,!!! not mexico's economy!!!>> so no matter how you slice it ,,keeping it illegal is a lose lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, situation..
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