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Old 08-08-2011, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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... filibustered nearly 80% of major legislation.

Senate Republicans: Filibuster everything to win in November? | McClatchy
Really, you say?

So...they filibustered the obama stimulus? Uh....no.

So....they filibustered obamacare? Uh.....no.

So...they filibustered stimulus 1&2? Uh...no.

So....they filibustered financial reform (you know, too big too fail?)? Uh.....no.

Best get your facts straight son.
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Old 08-08-2011, 08:07 PM
 
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Really, you say?

So...they filibustered the obama stimulus? Uh....no.

So....they filibustered obamacare? Uh.....no.

So...they filibustered stimulus 1&2? Uh...no.

So....they filibustered financial reform (you know, too big too fail?)? Uh.....no.

Best get your facts straight son.

I am not your son.
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Old 08-08-2011, 08:09 PM
 
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OK OK, some of my conservative friends made their point.

I don't care which party does it -- be it a Democrat or Republican. Filibuster should be done away with, period.
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Old 08-08-2011, 09:55 PM
 
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OK OK, some of my conservative friends made their point.

I don't care which party does it -- be it a Democrat or Republican. Filibuster should be done away with, period.
no, the filibuster has its uses, like stopping bad bills in their tracks. i will agree however that the filibuster has been overused.
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Old 08-08-2011, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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So says the Republicans.
You poor soul. You just can't understand that there were 60 Democrats there and they couldn't override a filibuster even though all they got was threats. Too bad that your attempt fell on its face.
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Old 08-08-2011, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Proof beyond any doubt of the right's childish behavior and goal to destroy the country at all costs.
Rare right back and point out how the Dems were so screwed although they had the necessary 60 votes to throw out a filibuster. They found it easier to let the threat hold them back and then howl about what the Republicans did to them when they did it to themselves.

How many times has this whole thing been tried here only to die for lack of a second or a third?
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Old 08-08-2011, 11:42 PM
 
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no, the filibuster has its uses, like stopping bad bills in their tracks. i will agree however that the filibuster has been overused.
If you really want to stop a bad bill then vote it down. If a political party passes a bad bill then let them pay the price at the ballot box. The current situation in the Senate with its filabuster rules contribute to political gridllock.
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Old 08-09-2011, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Short memory? I guess you think that it is OK when Democrats fillibuster but not when your side is fillibustered against?

Flashback 2003-2005 and look at the Democrat fillibusters of Bush court appointees.
of course, don't you know it is their way or no way.

Nita
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:17 AM
 
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If you really want to stop a bad bill then vote it down. If a political party passes a bad bill then let them pay the price at the ballot box. The current situation in the Senate with its filabuster rules contribute to political gridllock.
this is exactly why the filibuster procedure was created. remember that senators were originally appointed by the state governments, and were NOT elected positions by the people. the reason for that was so that the states had a voice in congress. in fact the senate was modeled after britains house of lords. it has been shown time and time again that you can vote against a bad bill in the house, but if you are in the minority, it will pass. the senate is where reason is supposed to prevail, and the filibuster is part of that reason.
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