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View Poll Results: How do we avoid a double dip?
Cut taxes on the rich 19 40.43%
Repeal EPA, FDA, and all wall street regulation 20 42.55%
Cut entitlements, unemployment, and education 22 46.81%
Raise taxes on the 47% of people who don't pay anything 32 68.09%
Repeal the minimum wage 16 34.04%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-10-2011, 09:44 AM
 
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Since conservatives are the only ones who can fix our economy, what should the koch brothers... *cough ahem* I mean tea party do to ensure that we don't enter a double dip recession?
None of the things you listed will do anything to help the economy.

We need to invest in local businesses and get each community self sufficient.

Importing crap from Asia is our biggest financial problem.

Americans need to take the cash and gold they have buried, doing nothing, and start making investments in their own neighborhood businesses.
Buy equipment to make stuff.

Food, Fuel,Tools, and even Tech.

Being the Servant industry of the world isn't cutting it.
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:55 AM
 
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It's some strange phenomena that exerts the absurd position of putting a wall up between people creates a better environment to do business.

No, it just creates a wall that someone has to crawl over to meet with that other person.
I agree with this completely, which is exactly why we need to deregulate and let wall street and corporate america start creating jobs again.
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:03 AM
 
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I agree with this completely, which is exactly why we need to deregulate and let wall street and corporate america start creating jobs again.
Deregulation of greed is what caused this mess.

News Flash:

THERE ARE EVIL GREEDY PEOPLE RUNNING THE WORLD FINANCIALS.

Deregulating them even further would surely kill us all.
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:05 AM
 
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Deregulation of greed is what caused this mess.

News Flash:

THERE ARE EVIL GREEDY PEOPLE RUNNING THE WORLD FINANCIALS.

Deregulating them even further would surely kill us all.
Okay, I give up... how does a person "regulate greed"?? Or is this just rhetoric..
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:07 AM
 
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Deregulation of greed is what caused this mess.

News Flash:

THERE ARE EVIL GREEDY PEOPLE RUNNING THE WORLD FINANCIALS.

Deregulating them even further would surely kill us all.
No it didn't.

Stupid citizens allowing their idiotic representatives to create fake institutions to control prices is what caused this nonsense.
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:09 AM
 
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Deregulation of greed is what caused this mess.

News Flash:

THERE ARE EVIL GREEDY PEOPLE RUNNING THE WORLD FINANCIALS.

Deregulating them even further would surely kill us all.
I think you meant to write "Regulation of business is what caused this mess"

The only reason you are writing this is because you are greedy enough to want their money.

Why is greed a bad thing? This crisis was caused by the average American consumer being so greedy that he/she had to have a 2,400 sqft home, 2 brand new cars, three flat screen TVs, two video game systems and a vacation every year (no matter what their salary ACTUALLY was). You know what? Greed did cause this. Maybe we should start regulating the middle class consumer.
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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None of the things you listed will do anything to help the economy.

We need to invest in local businesses and get each community self sufficient.

Importing crap from Asia is our biggest financial problem.

Americans need to take the cash and gold they have buried, doing nothing, and start making investments in their own neighborhood businesses.
Buy equipment to make stuff.


Food, Fuel,Tools, and even Tech.

Being the Servant industry of the world isn't cutting it.
First of all, you need to show them just where they have all this money buried, and doing nothing. And, when you point it out to them, and it's been all dug up, you'll find that it doesn't exist.

In this area, there have been a number of people that have invested in starting up a business. Renovate the building to suit them, install the equipment they will need, and begin... And, everything just stays on the shelves because no one has the money to buy any of it. In 6 months (or less) the building is boarded up again, and they are even poorer than they were before.

THAT MEANS, BEFORE ALL ELSE, YOU'LL HAVE TO FIND A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SPEND THE MONEY THEY DON'T HAVE.
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:19 AM
 
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Hell; you just gotta go to the nearest McD's and watch people paying for a Big Mac with cheese and fries, large coke with a damn credit card!
Don't give me any crap over those award points either; you dumb asses think you're getting something for nothing? Yeah right, 28% interest on unpaid balances sure make those FREE points look even better; right?
But of course we know you all pay off the outstanding balance every month. Of course you do.
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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We need to invest in local businesses and get each community self sufficient.
That would do wonders, but it won't happen under the current system and the current Idiot-Think of Americans.

The system is bass-ackwards. You should be paying 15% in taxes to your State and 3% taxes to the federal government.

Once you start doing that and get the federal government out of your business, you'll find you have greater control over your financial future.

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Importing crap from Asia is our biggest financial problem.
But you have created that situation and you no longer have any control over that matter. You'll just have to live with it to the bitter end.
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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Have you ever studied any economics?
Yep, just not at the Rush Limbaugh school of Economics.

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People who think regulation is good for the economy are the ones who are nuts.
Yeah I mean it's TOTALLY insane to suggest that Enron ought not lie about their earnings.

And if banks want capital ratios of 500:1 , who are we to stop them? It's not like they were recapitalized by the taxpayer...... oh wait... they were.

But, you know, if we're going to truly "deregulate" , then banks will have to start lending out their own deposits, instead of this fractional reserve system. Also, no more Fed, no more bank borrowing from a discount window.... no more "fed liquidity", or asset support, and we will need to claw back all of that "recapitalization" of 2008-2011. Funny how none of the so called "deregulators" are suggesting that we ACTUALLY deregulate.... Tea Party hypocrites, as usual.

this leads me to believe that you are not "deregulators" at all, since no one is actually proposing the steps necessary to deregulate the system.

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