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Old 08-09-2011, 12:50 AM
 
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Hey, just fyi, many leftists have been suspicious or untrusting of Obama for a long time..

See this article in the Progressive..from 2008

Obama No | The Progressive

By the way, the author is black. Most real leftists are not as hamstrung by lame political correctness as you want to believe.

Of course, you overlook,

1. History shows that the author was totally wrong in his analysis and prediction about the campaign and election; and

2. He was supporting Clinton at the height of the primary dispute between Obama and Hillary.
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Old 08-09-2011, 12:54 AM
 
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Of course, you overlook,

1. History shows that the author was totally wrong in his analysis and prediction about the campaign and election; and

2. He was supporting Clinton at the height of the primary dispute between Obama and Hillary.
Neither of these things, especially the second, contradict anything that I'm saying with regard to leftist stances towards Obama.

And of course, he was not totally wrong:

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1) Obama’s empty claims to being a candidate of progressive change and to embodying a “movement” that exists only as a brand will dissolve into disillusionment in either a failed campaign against McCain or an Obama Presidency that continues the politics he’s practiced his entire career
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Old 08-09-2011, 12:56 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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The Left won't abandon Obama. They're too scared of being called "racists". Its the ultimate sin.
No, what we are "afraid" of is the Republicans and the Tea Party dragging America back into the 1950's
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Old 08-09-2011, 01:20 AM
 
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Neither of these things, especially the second, contradict anything that I'm saying with regard to leftist stances towards Obama.

And of course, he was not totally wrong:
I don't disagree with your statements about leftist stances, but the source you cite discloses nothing. It's no secret that there was plenty of Obama distrust that, as we know, the Clintons pretty well exploited (not unfairly). His declaration that Obama couldn't beat McCain was obviously wrong. Of course, that was before McCain made his horrific/comical VP choice.
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Old 08-09-2011, 01:42 AM
 
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Losing the left to whom?
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Old 08-09-2011, 05:14 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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As has now been illustrated here,the left don't actually CARE what Obama does or does not do,they will still vote for him.

Winning is all that matters.
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Old 08-09-2011, 05:16 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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No, what we are "afraid" of is the Republicans and the Tea Party dragging America back into the 1950's
Not so much the 1950s as the 1880s
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Old 08-09-2011, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Gone
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I guess you don't even look at polls from Rasmussen, do you?
No I do not, ALL polls are BS IMHO, if you knew anything about polling you would know that, but instead you see one you like and say look look her folks this says what I want to hear. There is only ONE poll that matters and that one is next year.
Casper
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Old 08-09-2011, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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The Left won't abandon Obama. They're too scared of being called "racists". Its the ultimate sin.
I voted for an old white guy, Mike Gravel, rather than Obama in the primary in 2008. I'm not afraid in the least of being called a racist. I think you ought to meet a few actual people on the left and leave the caricatures at the door.
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