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Old 08-12-2011, 07:41 PM
 
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BART Cuts Cell Phone Service to Prevent Police Brutality Protest | NowPublic News Coverage
Wouldn't surprise me. A lot of cops, particularly the administration, think they are above the law and can break the law to enforce the law.
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Old 08-12-2011, 07:47 PM
 
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you can still protest why the need for orders to tell you what to do on a little device? you a robot
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Old 08-12-2011, 07:50 PM
 
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Why do the police need to ban video coverage of themselves if they have nothing to hide?
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Old 08-12-2011, 07:51 PM
 
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I don't understand why average Americans can't videotape the police in public. News stations and the media do it all the time. This should be a protected right under the freedom of speech. If the cops did their job, it wouldn't be a problem.
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Old 08-12-2011, 07:54 PM
 
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I missed the part where they banned vidios and cameras,thats just wrong or not true
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Old 08-12-2011, 07:55 PM
 
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It's illegal in many states to film the police without their consent. The cell phone screw by the BART Police was to make sure no one could use their cell phone cameras to record them since CA is not a state where this is illegal.
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:01 PM
 
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It's illegal in many states to film the police without their consent. The cell phone screw by the BART Police was to make sure no one could use their cell phone cameras to record them since CA is not a state where this is illegal.
you can take all the pictures and vidios you want without active service with your cellphone silly.Ilive in flyover country and do it all the time.
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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I don't understand why average Americans can't videotape the police in public. News stations and the media do it all the time. This should be a protected right under the freedom of speech. If the cops did their job, it wouldn't be a problem.
BART PD is in California. It isn't illegal to tape police officers here. I am a police officer in California and, morever, work very closely with BART PD. I could care less if you video tape me, whenever you want. Doesn't bother me one bit.

Having said that, people are BRAINSWASHED into believing a videotape is the end all of end alls. Its not. It tells ONE slice of the picture, however, does not tell everything. Without going into specific's, it doesn't show what happened before, or after the video tape. It doesn't show what police procedures are, and/or explain police procedures. It is one dimensional and does not, no matter what the anti police crowd say, shows the "whole story." I could go on and on, however...

Now, for BART shutting down phone service. What just happened in London, England? The CRIMINALS were using their phone services, Twitter, etc to circumvent police procedures and crowd control. Thus, destroying and causing more problems. Is that the reason BART shut it down? I have no clue. HOWEVER, it IS a valid answer to the, "I hate police crowd."

Just the other night, I was being filmed by a group of drunken, enraged "party goers." I took out my Iphone and began filiming them. The crowd ATTACKED ME. They were screaming, "You can't film me. Your the police. I have rights." When I said, "You are filming me, why can't film you?" They just stood there, with dumb looks on their faces. THAT is the type of people you are protecting. More power to you...

David Cameron considers banning suspected rioters from social media | Media | guardian.co.uk
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:29 PM
 
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BART PD is in California. It isn't illegal to tape police officers here. I am a police officer in California and, morever, work very closely with BART PD. I could care less if you video tape me, whenever you want. Doesn't bother me one bit.

Having said that, people are BRAINSWASHED into believing a videotape is the end all of end alls. Its not. It tells ONE slice of the picture, however, does not tell everything. Without going into specific's, it doesn't show what happened before, or after the video tape. It doesn't show what police procedures are, and/or explain police procedures. It is one dimensional and does not, no matter what the anti police crowd say, shows the "whole story." I could go on and on, however...

Now, for BART shutting down phone service. What just happened in London, England? The CRIMINALS were using their phone services, Twitter, etc to circumvent police procedures and crowd control. Thus, destroying and causing more problems. Is that the reason BART shut it down? I have no clue. HOWEVER, it IS a valid answer to the, "I hate police crowd."

Just the other night, I was being filmed by a group of drunken, enraged "party goers." I took out my Iphone and began filiming them. The crowd ATTACKED ME. They were screaming, "You can't film me. Your the police. I have rights." When I said, "You are filming me, why can't film you?" They just stood there, with dumb looks on their faces. THAT is the type of people you are protecting. More power to you...

David Cameron considers banning suspected rioters from social media | Media | guardian.co.uk
I for one wouldn't miss them a bit if every one of these social media sites dropped off the map! Idiotic childish pap for self absorbed people.
You want to engage people in a conversation try walking up to them and saying hello in person for cry'n out loud!

These people that think human interaction is typing with your thumbs are one gene removed from lemmings.
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:35 PM
 
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BART PD is in California. It isn't illegal to tape police officers here. I am a police officer in California and, morever, work very closely with BART PD. I could care less if you video tape me, whenever you want. Doesn't bother me one bit.

Having said that, people are BRAINSWASHED into believing a videotape is the end all of end alls. Its not. It tells ONE slice of the picture, however, does not tell everything. Without going into specific's, it doesn't show what happened before, or after the video tape. It doesn't show what police procedures are, and/or explain police procedures. It is one dimensional and does not, no matter what the anti police crowd say, shows the "whole story." I could go on and on, however...

Now, for BART shutting down phone service. What just happened in London, England? The CRIMINALS were using their phone services, Twitter, etc to circumvent police procedures and crowd control. Thus, destroying and causing more problems. Is that the reason BART shut it down? I have no clue. HOWEVER, it IS a valid answer to the, "I hate police crowd."

Just the other night, I was being filmed by a group of drunken, enraged "party goers." I took out my Iphone and began filiming them. The crowd ATTACKED ME. They were screaming, "You can't film me. Your the police. I have rights." When I said, "You are filming me, why can't film you?" They just stood there, with dumb looks on their faces. THAT is the type of people you are protecting. More power to you...

David Cameron considers banning suspected rioters from social media | Media | guardian.co.uk
I know plenty of idiots who don't understand it's a two way street. Let the police film, it's your right too.

But sometimes the video is necessary to show brutality. Even if an individual is being hostile to the police, that's no reason for the police to beat him senseless. Only if it is a life or death situation that is imminent to occur, are more forceful means allowed.
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