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Old 08-14-2011, 06:22 AM
 
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This is cruel, but I've seen cows at American universities' ag departments that had "portholes" cut into their sides so the stomach action could be observed. When not being studied the cows were out in the pastures with big rubber plugs in their side. Maybe that procedure doesn't hurt the cows the way the bile collection from bears does.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:33 AM
 
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That is heartbreaking but not surprising. The Chinese don't value human life either.
And the chinese have been allegedly "civilized" for centuries before the western world.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:34 AM
 
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Animal rights and animal cruelty are just more liberal myths. God gave unto mankind dominion over animals to do with what we please.
I'm sure this post is a bait post.

And people wonder why some of these "God people" are absolutely insane, evil freaks.
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Old 08-14-2011, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I can't rep you anymore, but agree with you.
I also fear we in the West are conforming more to Eastern values than influencing them with Western vaules.
Lol...

You do know that not eating ANY animal is an eastern value, right?
Or does your sympathy stop at the dinner plate?
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Old 08-14-2011, 07:42 AM
 
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Animal rights and animal cruelty are just more liberal myths. God gave unto mankind dominion over animals to do with what we please.
Just because you were given stewardship doesn't mean you move as fast as you can to screw it up.
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Old 08-14-2011, 07:47 AM
 
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a couple things.

1. this fluid they get from the bears is for medical reasons, it helps people.
2. what is the difference between this and American scientists torturing apes and keeping them confined for medical experiments.

i saw a vid in my drivers ed class in 98 or 99 explaining how damaging an accident is in slow motion. that video showed a strapped up ape flying into a brick wall at 80 miles an hour.

so before we get all high and mighty and talk about the barbaric chinese, look here at home in america with what they are doing to other animals.

its not pretty

No, bear bile does not remove heat. Heat is removed by an equalization process like evaporation and condensation.
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Old 08-14-2011, 08:33 AM
 
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Another stranger that fiction story from a stranger than fiction culture.
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Old 08-14-2011, 12:29 PM
 
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Animal rights and animal cruelty are just more liberal myths. God gave unto mankind dominion over animals to do with what we please.

God, I hope you're not a pet owner.
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Old 08-14-2011, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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No, bear bile does not remove heat. Heat is removed by an equalization process like evaporation and condensation.
Actually those are but 2 methods of removing heat, there are several others.

In this case I think the author of the article meant lowering the body temperature, much like aspirin does for someone with a fever.

BTW there are people in both eastern and western cultures who don't eat meat, and many in both that do.

Lastly, People do cruel and inhumane things all over the world, for many reasons, and excuses.
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Old 08-14-2011, 01:55 PM
 
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Actually those are but 2 methods of removing heat, there are several others.
They're not likely to be shooting lasers through the particles of people to cool them down.
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