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Old 08-14-2011, 07:33 AM
 
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I'm not sure how legal guardianship works in the UK, but if the 18 year old was living under her roof then she's responsible, in my opinion.
She's responsible either way. An 18 year old should be working and it's her fault he has no work ethic. But it shouldn't be just her, where's the thug's dad?
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Old 08-14-2011, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I'm not responsible for my son's actions - what about my human rights?' says Daniel Sartain-Clarke's mother
She forfeited those rights by allowing him to participate (since he lives in her household he is under her authority), and also by not immediately coming forward and pointing the finger at him to police.

Sounds fair to me. I'm sure there's a more responsible person worth of living in that flat.
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Old 08-14-2011, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Here
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Sounds like they've got the same caliber of folks we have here living off the backs of the rest of us.
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Old 08-14-2011, 07:46 AM
 
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Sounds like they've got the same caliber of folks we have here living off the backs of the rest of us.
I'm impressed by the British for this. I thought we were a little tougher, but if those riots happened here, there would only be pity for them and the government would be taxing the working people much more in order to build the families of the rioters nicer housing to placate them.

The mother of this thug could even consider returning to her own country. She's not doing much of anything for England.
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Old 08-14-2011, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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What a great idea. The immediate families of anyone convicted of a violent crime should lose all welfare benefits.
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Old 08-14-2011, 08:22 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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What a great idea. The immediate families of anyone convicted of a violent crime should lose all welfare benefits.
Good show.
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Old 08-14-2011, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Harrison, OH
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If they were in Switzerland, they'd go to prison and then be deported.
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Old 08-14-2011, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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What a great idea. The immediate families of anyone convicted of a violent crime should lose all welfare benefits.
I totally agree and I'm quite impressed that the UK is taking this stance. Let's see if they follow through with it.
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Old 08-14-2011, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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There's a term for people like this: parasites.
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Old 08-14-2011, 02:58 PM
 
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If someone willfully refuses to be a contributing member of society, why should anybody be forced by the gov't to provide them with the goodies?

If you're a criminal you can get free housing and food at a jail or work farm.

Well the UK has been very wrong about very much for quite a long time. They have a NIMBY problem (which is kinda what I was complaining about above) AND an excessive welfare state problem.

This dumb bum and his dumb mum got what they deserve.
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