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Old 08-15-2011, 09:04 PM
 
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Probably got killed fighting in North Africa or something. Those damn racist British!!
Judging by the way the British treated Black, Indian, Pakistani, and other non-White immigrants in terms of segregation, housing discrimination, job discrimination, and unequal access to quality education, in post World War II England you statement is actually on point.
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Old 08-15-2011, 09:04 PM
 
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All groups that terrorize people are evil, like the KKK and recently these violent youth mobs. It's a problem of a specific kind of people that exist in various proportions through area and time, and not of race.
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Old 08-15-2011, 09:08 PM
 
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i understand where your coming from with your projections, but its irrelevant on a crime that is so small, 6,255 nationwide.

there are 223 million whites, 71 percent of 6,255 are white who committed a hate crime. thats 4378. 4378 out of 223 million is 0.00001963229.

i believe the number i cited for blacks was 0.00002 something.

so barrow is right, more blacks do commit hate crimes proportionate to population.

the problem with barrow though is he will run with that, even though the number means nothing because its so irrelevant. its not even 1 percent.

that aint every stopped them before though when they want to push an agenda. all that matters to them is more blacks committed hate crimes the whites, regardless if its 0.000002 of the population.

they will still use that to push the agenda.
Dude, I hear you. I only made that post because I wanted to point out that hate crime stats are not skewed toward white offenders.

If you live in a big city though, this is something that you might want to take notice of. It doesn't matter what percentage of the population does what, it only matters how likely you are to be around when it goes down.
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Old 08-15-2011, 09:34 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Where is your concern when White Supremacists, Skinheads and Aryan Nation are attacking Black people? These types of attacks are far more common than Black-on-White hate crimes.

According to FBI statistics, Whites commit the majority of hate crimes

Offenders - Hate Crime Statistics, 2009




In 2009, the racial breakdown of the 6,225 known hate crime offenders was as follows:
  • 62.4 percent were white.
  • 18.5 percent were black.
  • 7.3 percent were groups made up of individuals of various races (multiple races, group).
  • 1.0 percent were American Indian/Alaskan Native.
  • 0.7 percent were Asian/Pacific Islander.
  • 10.2 percent were of unknown race
The attempts to rile White people up into thinking that the population of Black Americans is targeting Whites in hate crimes is nothing more than race baiting.
You're comparing apples with oranges. White Supremisists are not supposed to be anti-racist. Sharpton and Jackson are supposedly against racism. The kid in Wisconsin already admitted his crowd was targeting whites. So, where are our Black leaders? Do you or do you not think it's important for Black leaders to step up and address these punks? The Mayor of Philly can't do it by himself. No one is trying to rile up anyone, just stating the facts. No one here is condoning or denying white on black hate crime. However, no one can deny that black on white hate crime is on the rise. Like it or not, your statistics do not justify their behavior.
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Old 08-15-2011, 09:42 PM
 
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You're comparing apples with oranges. White Supremisists are not supposed to be anti-racist. Sharpton and Jackson are supposedly against racism. The kid in Wisconsin already admitted his crowd was targeting whites. So, where are our Black leaders? Do you or do you not think it's important for Black leaders to step up and address these punks? The Mayor of Philly can't do it by himself. No one is trying to rile up anyone, just stating the facts. No one here is condoning or denying white on black hate crime. However, no one can deny that black on white hate crime is on the rise. Like it or not, your statistics do not justify their behavior.
read my prior posts in this thread on statistics.

the answer to your question is no.
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Old 08-15-2011, 10:04 PM
 
Location: In this horrid OBOMINATION
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please. Don't remove yourself from serious consideration in future discussions with this nonsense.

People who oppose obama because he is black, are shameful racists against black people. Get that truth clear. If you're offended by this and it hits too close to home, that is your problem, and you are in an inferior moral position. There is certainly nothing wrong with keeping the issue of whites being racist towards blacks (a problem that has plagued this country for centuries) at the forefront. The battle rages on in the fight for equality and the removal of that "unearned privilege" that emerged from slavery that put blacks at a disadvantage and works to keep them there.

About opposing obama, if you (not you personally) identify yourself as a "conservative", knowing that this ideology is supported and favored by the most racist and racially ignorant segment of this country, then you have more in common with a racist than you do not. This has meant that you oppose every move he makes, no matter how minute it is. Don't try to pretend like you oppose him because of his policies. This is absurd. You oppose him because you are a part of a racist ideology that can't see any good he does because he is black. You oppose him despite the obstructionist tactics of your party to give the appearance that he's a failure. You oppose him despite the incredibly shameful performance of your leader in the previous administration, one that left president obama with the worst mess in history. Shameful.

Getting back to black teenagers, i understand their rage for the reasons i stated.

A deeper understanding is what you must strive for, obviously. This is a common flaw among "conservatives."



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Old 08-15-2011, 10:34 PM
 
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Blacks make up 13% of the population... so yeah, they are equal. To ignore population differences is to be willfully ignorant, which you leftists do every single time.
Actually, I think she really IS confused about the math!

How embarrassing.

Good post.
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Old 08-15-2011, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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In these statistics, white includes anyone from European heritage, non-black Hispanic, Middle Eastern, North African, Caucasian (ie. Armenian), Iranian, etc. So it is a much more general category compared to black which in our country stands for someone of mostly West African ancestry.

While what you are saying is true(except for black = West African ancestry, Black includes East Africans too) its funny that some whites will claim these very same people as white when its beneficial.

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Old 08-16-2011, 12:25 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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You're comparing apples with oranges. White Supremisists are not supposed to be anti-racist. Sharpton and Jackson are supposedly against racism. The kid in Wisconsin already admitted his crowd was targeting whites. So, where are our Black leaders? Do you or do you not think it's important for Black leaders to step up and address these punks? The Mayor of Philly can't do it by himself. No one is trying to rile up anyone, just stating the facts. No one here is condoning or denying white on black hate crime. However, no one can deny that black on white hate crime is on the rise. Like it or not, your statistics do not justify their behavior.
And who are these magical, mystical, mythical leaders of "The Blacks" of whom you speak? Last time I checked, I was an American and my "leaders" are elected officials starting at the top with the POTUS.

So where are the leaders of "The Whites" to address the epidemic of White men who are pedophiles? Do you or do you not think its important for White leaders to step up and address these sickos?
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Old 08-16-2011, 03:17 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Please. Don't remove yourself from serious consideration in future discussions with this nonsense.

People who oppose Obama because he is black, ARE SHAMEFUL RACISTS against black people. Get that truth clear. If you're offended by this and it hits too close to home, that is YOUR problem, and you are in an inferior moral position. There is certainly nothing wrong with keeping the issue of whites being racist towards blacks (a problem that has plagued this country for centuries) at the forefront. The battle rages on in the fight for equality and the removal of that "unearned privilege" that emerged from slavery that put blacks at a disadvantage and works to keep them there.

About opposing Obama, if you (not you personally) identify yourself as a "Conservative", knowing that this ideology is supported and favored by the most racist and racially ignorant segment of this country, then you have more in common with a racist than you do not. This has meant that you oppose every move he makes, no matter how minute it is. Don't try to pretend like you oppose him because of his policies. This is absurd. You oppose him because you are a part of a racist ideology that can't see ANY good he does because he is black. You oppose him despite the obstructionist tactics of your party to give the appearance that he's a failure. You oppose him despite the incredibly shameful performance of your leader in the previous administration, one that left President Obama with the worst mess in history. Shameful.

Getting back to black teenagers, I understand their rage for the reasons I stated.

A deeper understanding is what you must strive for, obviously. This is a common flaw among "Conservatives."
Blah blah blah anyone who disagrees with the President is a white devil racist, look we get it. Obama's been pulling the race card for a long long time. It doesn't even faze me anymore.

What's really twisted is that you use conservative disagreement with Obama as a justification from CRIMINAL behavior! You are justifying racist, criminal, violent behavior because some white conservatives have the audacity to disagree with the President! Who's the real racist here? You are essentially calling any non-Obama supporter a racist, and laying blame on them for the appalling behavior of criminals.

And please, just because I don't like Obama doesn't make me a Republican. I hate the Republicans just as much, both parties are war mongering globalist elitist frauds that look out for no one except themselves and their super rich, super powerful friends.
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