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Old 08-18-2011, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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What about his victim? I see you have no concern for someone who may have been scarred for life.
Most sex offense victims are not "scarred for life", although a steady diet of Oprah and similar talk-show drivel confuses people on that point.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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1. There should be a time limit based on the sex offense and based on good behavior.

2. Depending on the offense, the victim lives with the act in himself or herself forever. There are no statute of limitations for the victim.

Sex crimes are not your typical crimes like robbery or assault. Physical there is the exchange of body parts and fluids. Sex also affects are spiritual nature like nothing else does. So these crimes are a big deal.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:50 AM
 
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A thief takes your things.

A sex offender takes a piece of your soul.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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A sex offender takes a piece of your soul.
Oh, vomit.

Being on a government-sponsored hit list takes a bigger piece of your soul, I would surmise.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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We make pretty much anything involving a reproductive organ a sex offense, even something like pissing in public.

Then we make them keep that sex offender label for years, which makes it difficult for them to get jobs and reintegrate into society.

Sound research shows that the less likely a person is to reintegrate into society the more likely they are to commit another crime.

While rapists and child abusers ought to be locked up for life, some drunk frat boy who decided to take a whizz in someone's lawn should not be given the same label as they are nor should he have his life ruined because of it.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:59 AM
 
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I think SORA and Megan's Law and related laws are very bad pieces of legislation that was written out of a knee-jerk response, for political reasons. The title sex offender makes most people act in a pre-programmed way by frothing at the mouth, it reminds me in 1984 during the Two Minutes of Hate section, where the audience was pre-programmed to scream in hatred, vitriol, and disgust whenever Emmanuel Goldstein appeared on the screen and then calm down when they see the Ingsoc banner. That's how most people react when they hear sex offender. It's very sad.

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We make pretty much anything involving a reproductive organ a sex offense, even something like pissing in public.

Then we make them keep that sex offender label for years, which makes it difficult for them to get jobs and reintegrate into society.

Sound research shows that the less likely a person is to reintegrate into society the more likely they are to commit another crime.

While rapists and child abusers ought to be locked up for life, some drunk frat boy who decided to take a whizz in someone's lawn should not be given the same label as they are nor should he have his life ruined because of it.
Unfortunately, it is the so-called compassionate (neo)conservatives that would rather execute all criminals, petty and serious, than give them another chance. Then you wonder why we're the largest prison nation on earth and why so many people in poor urban areas stay poor and on welfare their whole lives
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Old 08-18-2011, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Not to defend people who commit sex crimes, but the hysteria and the legal prohibitions that essentially drive sex offenders out of entire municipalities are not only ridiculous but counterproductive.

Almost everyone who commits a crime and is imprisoned for it will get out of jal sometime.

It is in the best interests of society for those people to be able to live stable and productive lives.

Society has a legitimate interest in supervising at least some of those people.

Enabling them to live somewhere facilitates that supervision.

If an ex-offender is homeless, jobless, and friendless they are also likely to be hopeless. It's not good for us to force a significant segment of society into that position.
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Old 08-18-2011, 09:06 AM
 
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The type of sex offender matters, but some people just see the label and aren't capable of thinking past that.
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Old 08-18-2011, 09:08 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Oh, vomit.
Do you speak from experience?

Have you been sexually abused and found that it didn't change anything for you?

If you have not, and do not know anyone personally who has been sexually abused, then your opinion is worthless.

People who have had no experience with sexual abuse just cannot imagine what it is like, however empathetic they believe they are (and you seem to be not empathetic at all).
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Old 08-18-2011, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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I agree. If a person is so dangerous that he has to carry an albatross 'round his neck which severely limits his options for getting a job or even living somewhere, shouldn't he still be in prison?
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