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Yes, Economic Fullfillment is a Necessity of Rights 11 14.29%
No, Government Has no Rights to Protect Economic Interest of its People 66 85.71%
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:04 AM
 
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Many would say that the right to be employed is socialist, but if you think about it, rights for everyone is socialist. Economic rights should be part of a country's constitution.

I applaud FDR for proposing this.


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Old 08-20-2011, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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OK, so who should lose rights by being forced to employ people?
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:18 AM
 
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Conservatives will tell you that there is no right to employment, while they insist that the dwellings of the unemployed must meet middle class code standards, whether or not the unemployed can afford it.
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:25 AM
 
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I don't want to be employed!!!
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:29 AM
 
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Is the right to a job mentioned in the Constitution?
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:30 AM
 
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No.

How many people has the o.p. employed?
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:30 AM
 
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Is the right to a job mentioned in the Constitution?
We could amend the Constitution to add that right. And Congress would ignore it anyway. Many years ago they passed Humphrey-Hawkins which directed them tohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey%E2%80%93Hawkins_Full_Employment_Act work on full employment.

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Old 08-20-2011, 09:34 AM
 
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Is the right to a job mentioned in the Constitution?

Is overregulation of housing and rejecting property rights for the poor in the Constitution? (Is it unconstitutional if federal government denies you property rights but okay if a state does it?)
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:45 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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I don't think I could go so far as to say a job is a right the way life and liberty are. I think looking for a job and making your way in the world makes you stronger, but I do agree that true freedom can't exist without some economic security. (Look at what happened with Nazi Germany) So, I support jobs programs like the WPA and the CCC. It gives people some dignity instead of a welfare check, gives them a role in the community, teaches them useful skills, and prevents potential unrest from being unemployed.

So yeah, I do think everyone has a right to access an education, decent health care and housing. I wouldn't make housing completely free, but affordable, and government can play a positive role in the economic welfare of their citizens.

It's a shame he died before some of these proposals were put in place. FDR was truly one of the greatest and most gifted leaders we ever had.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:08 AM
 
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but I do agree that true freedom can't exist without some economic security.
And you are responsible for that, not the government.

Economic security is subjective, and there is no possible to to define it or quantify it, and any attempt to do so would violate the Laws of Economics, leading to economic instability.

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So yeah, I do think everyone has a right to access an education, decent health care and housing. I wouldn't make housing completely free, but affordable, and government can play a positive role in the economic welfare of their citizens.
Again, there's no way to do that without violating the Law of Economics, leading to economic strife.

The [Free] Market System is more than just a price on a product or service, it is a means of distributing resources fairly and equitably.

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It's a shame he died before some of these proposals were put in place. FDR was truly one of the greatest and most gifted leaders we ever had.
Who imprisoned thousands of US citizens and confiscated their property for no good reason, and who prolonged the Great Depression. He didn't die soon enough.

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Is the right to a job mentioned in the Constitution?
Yes, in the 9th Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

And in the 10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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