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Old 08-23-2011, 06:56 AM
 
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Why does every liberal try to pull the Bush card when they in fact have NO IDEA that most of us conservatives were not in favor of spending all that money on wars in the first place?
And strangely, Bush was re-elected. I still can't figure that one out, since most conservatives were so against him.
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Old 08-23-2011, 07:00 AM
 
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And strangely, Bush was re-elected. I still can't figure that one out, since most conservatives were so against him.
Yeah, funny how all these anti-Bush conservatives we have running around now were walking lock step with the GOP at the time and helped him get re-elected. We couldn't change horses midstream when we had a couple wars going on...

Bunch of transparent hypocritical bastards for the most part.
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Old 08-23-2011, 07:03 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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This cracks me up. Libya was none of our business (or NATO's), but we get involved after Obama drags both of his left feet (politically and militarily) and after months of ineptitude (by both NATO & Obama), the rebels are clumsily heading towards victory. So now we are supposed to praise Obama for this? NATO even? Give me a break. Nothing about this endeavor was right and the awkward outcome doesn't make it so. Gloat about something else Obama-supporters - you've got nothing here.
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Old 08-23-2011, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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Since the beginning of the Libyan uprising, Fox has consistently characterized the conflict as "Obama's War". Today, they've been calling it "NATO's War". When it's not looking good, it's Obama's, when it's working, it's NATO. Many of the right-wing trolls on this board, as per custom, followed suit and called this Obama's war. Today ironically, they're pretty quiet.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but there have been no American miltary casulties.
Right wing member weighing in on this left wing troll spin post..........I have seen any number of posts on CD by disappointed Obama supporters criticizing him for his failure to live up to his campaign promises and for not only continuing the Bush policies but involving us in a third war (Libya).
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Since the beginning of the Libyan uprising, Fox has consistently characterized the conflict as "Obama's War". Today, they've been calling it "NATO's War". When it's not looking good, it's Obama's, when it's working, it's NATO. Many of the right-wing trolls on this board, as per custom, followed suit and called this Obama's war. Today ironically, they're pretty quiet.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but there have been no American miltary casulties.
Don't worry, they will change is back if it doesn't work out.
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:12 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Since the beginning of the Libyan uprising, Fox has consistently characterized the conflict as "Obama's War". Today, they've been calling it "NATO's War". When it's not looking good, it's Obama's, when it's working, it's NATO. Many of the right-wing trolls on this board, as per custom, followed suit and called this Obama's war. Today ironically, they're pretty quiet.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but there have been no American miltary casulties.
They will never tell the truth no matter what. They hate Obama in every way.
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:14 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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And strangely, Bush was re-elected. I still can't figure that one out, since most conservatives were so against him.
They always voted for him. What a bunch of hips.......
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Old 08-23-2011, 09:14 AM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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Actually it's Sarkosy's and Cameron's war. The French have done the bulk of the work.
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Old 08-23-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Since the beginning of the Libyan uprising, Fox has consistently characterized the conflict as "Obama's War". Today, they've been calling it "NATO's War". When it's not looking good, it's Obama's, when it's working, it's NATO. Many of the right-wing trolls on this board, as per custom, followed suit and called this Obama's war. Today ironically, they're pretty quiet.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but there have been no American miltary casulties.
Do your panties always get in abunch over such trivial things as this? Engaging in a war is about more then not wishing to lose American lives, people die in war, and it does not negate the fact that many innocent people have been killed by our actions in Libya. Clinton may have convinced people that war was okay, as long as we could bomb with impunity from 30,000 feet up.

Don't act like you are scoring Brownie points in this debate by pointing out that no American lives were lost in our war in Libya. War is death, its not made clean and sanitary just because none of our people died, and it does not justify more wars where neither our national interests or American lives are in peril.
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Old 08-24-2011, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Do your panties always get in abunch over such trivial things as this? Engaging in a war is about more then not wishing to lose American lives, people die in war, and it does not negate the fact that many innocent people have been killed by our actions in Libya. Clinton may have convinced people that war was okay, as long as we could bomb with impunity from 30,000 feet up.

Don't act like you are scoring Brownie points in this debate by pointing out that no American lives were lost in our war in Libya. War is death, its not made clean and sanitary just because none of our people died, and it does not justify more wars where neither our national interests or American lives are in peril.
As long as were talking about knotted underwear, Wapasha, I think you had better check yours.

Quaddifi's military had all the heavy weapons. They were using them all to full force as well. The Libyan army was slaughtering hundreds of rebels and innocents alike with their tanks, artillery, and air force. Without NATO's intervention, this slaughter would have increased town by town.

Unlike Sarajevo, where millions of people died before NATO got it's act together, the Libyan military was checked and run to ground before they could kill millions instead of thousands.

War is death, and it is indeed never clean or sanitary. But the world has seen what can happen when one side of a conflict is overwhelmingly equipped and the other is not.

The United States was once in exactly the same position as the Libyan rebels a couple of centuries ago. These folks were just farmers, storekeepers, teachers, and common folk who were sick and tired of oppression. Just like we were.

Our national interests are very much at stake in the middle east and north Africa. The past 10 years should have made this completely apparent to you. We have a lot of mistakes to answer for in this region, but we need no apologies for our actions in Libya. Our response was judicious, proper, and the cause of good will by Libyans at a critical point in their history.

Quddafi was the creator of much of the terrorism that resulted in 9/11, and he is directly responsible for some of it. He is no friend of America and never was. And most importantly, he was a true tyrant to his people.

For the world, America is still the nation of freedom. I saw a Libyan guy on the news last night, celebrating Quaddafi's downfall in Tripoli. He was dancing and kissing and waving our flag in joy. Tell me that something like this is not in our best interests.
The French did the heavy lifting this time, but that guy was kissing Old Glory. Maybe you feel differently, but I was damned proud of my country when I saw that, and it brought a lump to my throat.

These guys wanted wanted to do the job themselves. All they wanted was a little help, and they got it. I hope we can help guide them to a peaceful resolution and a democracy that serves them well in the months to come.
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