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A single payer system is government spending, yes. But its government spending that can create jobs outside of the normal means. The largest single expense for most businesses is healthcare. If the government takes over that responsibility, then they would have more money to hire new workers. Or, if you believe in trickle down, then they could pad their pocket books, putting more money in the economy by purchasing new items or putting it into banks for new lending.
I know, I know, socialism, I'm a communist, etc. Actually I'm none of those, and I think that we should either end government healthcare all together, or completely nationalize it. This half and half crap isn't working, and hasn't worked since Reagan signed it into law in 1986, and Obamacare isn't relieving our employers from their burden, in fact it increases it.
So my outside of the box idea is, nationalize healthcare and private employers would then create more jobs, or spending which creates jobs.
Hey, its either that or massive government handouts to contractors that will waste money on infrastructure projects, or wasting it on a military that costs 4 times what the rest of the world combined spends.
You decide.
Since your idea would cost trillions of dollars, where do you think the money will come from? Higher employee taxes along with the employer contributions, and then they will probably tax each employer XXX amount per employee as their "contribution" to healthcare.
rbohm and Winer Sucks, This is for "Out of the Box".
Those are status quo suggestions.
BTW, rohm, educate yourself, and I have done corp taxes. We have the 2nd highest gross tax rates, but several rungs lower on the actual corp rate paid. GE paid $0 in 2010.
Plus, warren Buffeet admitted tax rates never ever changed any investment decision he made. I'll take his expertise over anyone on the board.
Warren Buffett produces NOTHING. He reaps the earnings of others.
A single payer system is government spending, yes. But its government spending that can create jobs outside of the normal means. The largest single expense for most businesses is healthcare. If the government takes over that responsibility, then they would have more money to hire new workers. Or, if you believe in trickle down, then they could pad their pocket books, putting more money in the economy by purchasing new items or putting it into banks for new lending.
I know, I know, socialism, I'm a communist, etc. Actually I'm none of those, and I think that we should either end government healthcare all together, or completely nationalize it. This half and half crap isn't working, and hasn't worked since Reagan signed it into law in 1986, and Obamacare isn't relieving our employers from their burden, in fact it increases it.
So my outside of the box idea is, nationalize healthcare and private employers would then create more jobs, or spending which creates jobs.
Hey, its either that or massive government handouts to contractors that will waste money on infrastructure projects, or wasting it on a military that costs 4 times what the rest of the world combined spends.
You decide.
OK. Sounds good. Think of it this way: you're single payer health care program is being spent in other parts of the world. We can't have an empire and health care for all. It's one or the other.
Going back to doing jobs by hand ,automation has taken away so many jobs .
This is such a false way of looking at things. The progress of society and technology is measured by getting more from less capital including labor. We used to toil 18 hours per day in fields just to feed ourselves. Now we work 40 hours per week and own things unfathomable to people a generation ago.
Our poor people own TVs now. Do you know how many middle class folks couldn't even afford TVs back in the 40s and 50s?
how about instead of gimmicks, we practice real world solutions that dont punish people even when they do what is expected of them? lets start by cutting back excess regulations, reform the tax code to make it simpler, and generally make the business environment in this country better for investors? we need sound business principles not gimmicks.
And you'll still see the jobs lost to Malaysian sweat shops.
Trickle down is a failure yet GOP talking points say it is the only solution.
Warren Buffett produces NOTHING. He reaps the earnings of others.
Exactly right. So why do we continue to push trickle down policies that benefit him and his "class" so much when they do nothing to improve our economy? Why is his income from moving money back and forth taxed at a lower rate than someone who goes to work every day?
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