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When they pay for the tickets, it is up to them to decide what the tickets are for, and what not.
And it makes sense for the authorities to try and keep kids away from anything gun-related. It's not the US after all... I know it is hard to understand for Americans, but we don't want our cities and societies to be anything like in the US.
True, many of our cities are awash with corrupt, money wasting political machines along with too many violent criminal elements who should be in prison, not roaming among the law abiding.
That said, after what just played out in some English cities recently, I don't envy what they're having to deal with. I'd hate to be a small businessman who is considered "rich" and as such ripe for being assaulted, robbed and burned out.
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Yes, I feel the same way, just the other way round
The interesting thing about our...cultural disparities ...here is that neither of us would survive long if we were to trade places. The antiseptic society you claim to live in would be purgatory for a man like me and you, in turn, would die before defending yourself from a prowling mountain lion on the north forty.
Either from lack of skill or will, no matter, lion lunch. Me I would end up wrapped in a nut coat in a rubber room for lack of any independence and self sufficiency in watching out for my family and my own safety.
You see, many places in the US are still VERY remote and wild. I live in such a place and can depend on no one but myself for immediate aid in any circumstance. We have to defend ourselves from both two and four legged predators and varmints when they pop up thus our needs differ drastically from yours.
We can no more picture a life without skill at arms than you seem to picture with such skill. Personally, such skill is better to have and not need than need and not have. Verily, if I were you, I would hope not to put that to the test.
The interesting thing about our...cultural disparities ...here is that neither of us would survive long if we were to trade places. The antiseptic society you claim to live in would be purgatory for a man like me and you, in turn, would die before defending yourself from a prowling mountain lion on the north forty.
Either from lack of skill or will, no matter, lion lunch. Me I would end up wrapped in a nut coat in a rubber room for lack of any independence and self sufficiency in watching out for my family and my own safety.
You see, many places in the US are still VERY remote and wild. I live in such a place and can depend on no one but myself for immediate aid in any circumstance. We have to defend ourselves from both two and four legged predators and varmints when they pop up thus our needs differ drastically from yours.
We can no more picture a life without skill at arms than you seem to picture with such skill. Personally, such skill is better to have and not need than need and not have. Verily, if I were you, I would hope not to put that to the test.
As far as I know there are no dangerous animals in Britain or anywhere else in Europe, except maybe a few bears in natural parks where hardly anyone is allowed to live anyway. Nor would I want to live in the wilderness, I don't want to have anything to do with bears, lions, alligators and such beasts... Sometimes I feel so out of time and place when I think of such animals and certain people, as if I had come to earth on board of a spaceship or from the future via a time machine. The primitive nature of earth and earthlings kind of hurts and insults me...
True, many of our cities are awash with corrupt, money wasting political machines along with too many violent criminal elements who should be in prison, not roaming among the law abiding.
That said, after what just played out in some English cities recently, I don't envy what they're having to deal with. I'd hate to be a small businessman who is considered "rich" and as such ripe for being assaulted, robbed and burned out.
I assume such riots will continue to happen from time to time. There have been similar riots in the US, like for instance in L.A. years ago.
As far as I know there are no dangerous animals in Britain or anywhere else in Europe, except maybe a few bears in natural parks where hardly anyone is allowed to live anyway. Nor would I want to live in the wilderness, I don't want to have anything to do with bears, lions, alligators and such beasts... Sometimes I feel so out of time and place when I think of such animals and certain people, as if I had come to earth on board of a spaceship or from the future via a time machine. The primitive nature of earth and earthlings kind of hurts and insults me...
In stark contrast, I have never felt so alive than when I have had to face danger. I got no pleasure from having to take out after stock killing cats but one in particular brought my own mortallity straight to my attention and the feeling of still being alive after the encounter is indescribable.
Primitive? Perhaps to certain folks but we had it to do. Thus martial contests hold an allure for us. If England and Europe feel above such things more power to ya. I would not trade our life here in the open NV desert for love nor money nor "feeling safe". At the end of the day those who are safe were made so by those who risked all to make it happen.By the same token that safety is kept by those who choose to risk all to keep it.
We don't like guns over here in Europe, we don't want them, we don't need them *shrug* Get over it already
that's the reason Europe is susceptible to crazy people like Hitler. when you do deicide you need them and decide to use them millions of people would have been killed.
I wonder if the use of light personal armor that will stop a knife thrust is common in Britain. Or is that illegal as well? I would not be surprised if they were.
Actually body armor is indeed illegal in many countries. It's illegal in Australia for instance.
That is why it is obvious it is about control not public safety. Body armor is defensive, not offensive and yet the punishment is similar as an illegal firearm.
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Well whatdya know? The same thing is happening in Canada as well, despite having the requirement that ALL firearms must be registered throughout Canada
To be fair, most provinces willfully ignore that law. For all intents and purposes that law is null and void in most of the country.
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Maybe BECAUSE of their history. Europeans have had wars thousands of years before the US even existed, I guess all in all we are a bit tired of fighting. The US is still like a rebel teenager, we Europeans are more like mature senior citizens
And thanks to the ease of travel, communication etc. we can analyze the US and arrive at the conclusion that that is what we definitely don't want.
With your aging population and far below replacement rate breeding, you guys will mostly be senior citizens in a few decades.
Funny how Europeans look down on Americans as savages. Funny from a region when the only time it is not murderous is when it is impotent.
There are also Americans who want gun bans, it's not just me.
I am not a big fan of Paris, but when someone drags it through the mud in order to make a ridiculous claim regarding European cities as a whole, it is only fair to mention places such as Detroit on the other side of the Atlantic.
As far as I can see, gun laws function well in Europe. An occasional shooting involving illegal weapons doesn't change a thing about that. Places like Germany will never allow arms, and I support that. Guns are just not the civilized way of solving problems in the 21st century in my view.
IMO, you are being very naive.
Maybe you need to do some research.
As long as there are bad people, and there will ALWAYS be, self defense is your best chance.
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