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Old 08-28-2011, 08:30 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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House Speaker John Boehner’s budget proposal will change the face of the American social and political landscape - increasing poverty, putting hundreds of thousands of low income Americans out on the streets, denying medical assistance to the low income disabled and elderly, and eviscerating the SNAP or “food stamps” program. Boehner would have American Society regress to the era of the 30's as described by John Steinbeck in his great and tragic novel, “The Grapes of Wrath.”

Boehner’s plan can properly be called “class warfare,” and a significant consequence of this class warfare can't help but translate to racial warfare, as well.

As we all know by now, Boehner’s manifesto rejects all tax increases. A House GOP aide talking about the Republican members of the deficit reduction committee (“the gang of six”) said bluntly: “We appoint members to the committee, and we’re not appointing any Republicans who will vote for tax hikes.”

Instead, a $1.8 trillion reduction will come from “entitlement reforms and savings.”

This savings will be acquired over the next ten years by one of three possible methods – all equally draconian:

•Behind Door Number One: Cut Social Security and Medicare benefits heavily for current retirees - a form of political suicide that even extremists like Boehner will not actually contemplate.

•Door Number Two: Repeal the Affordable Care Act’s coverage expansions while retaining its strictures that cut Medicare payments and raise tax revenues. However, Republicans will seek to repeal many of those measures as well. (Yes, I am also confused by this last).

•Door Number Three: Completely obliterate the social safety net for low-income children, parents, senior citizens, and people with disabilities.

Absent any compromise on tax increases, there are simply no other ways to obtain $1.8 trillion in entitlement cuts within the next decade.

In addition (yes, it gets worse), House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s own plan would slash Medicaid and health reform by $2.2 trillion. Ryan would also cut $127 billion from SNAP and reduce Pell Grants and other student financial assistance by $126 billion. Looking for an education to get you a better job or pull you solidly into the middle class? Keep looking. And remember what happened to Oliver Twist when he asked for more soup.

Previously, core assistance programs for the poor were exempted from across the board cuts by the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings law, enacted in 1985. Now, the “Cut, Cap, and Balance” bill will remove these exemptions. With an election coming up, which door are the Republicans likely to choose? Don’t all answer at once. The entitlement cuts will most heavily target the programs created for people of lesser means and, yes Virginia, less political power.

Meanwhile, the many lucrative tax breaks that benefit the wealthy and the powerful corporations have been pledged protection by Boehner who certainly shows great sympathy for the robber baron class if no one else.

Extra credit question: Who said, "This person suffering from hereditary defects costs the community $60,000 during his lifetime. Fellow Countryman, that is your money, too."

a) Charles Darwin
b) Sarah Palin
c) Office of Social Policy’s “A New People”
(hint: “C” was translated from the German)

All of the above is written in my own words. My major source for the information came from the non partisan outfit, Center on Budget and Policy Priorities: http://www.cbpp.org/files/7-25-11bud-stmt.pdf.

P*ss poor attitude copped from Bill the Cat (Remember him? Bloom County? Never mind)

PS This is NOT a diatribe directed at any member of CD (unless John Boehner became a member when I wasn’t looking), but if thinking so helps you get through another night scrounging through the dumpsters, feel free.
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Old 08-28-2011, 09:01 PM
 
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House Speaker John Boehner’s budget proposal will change the face of the American social and political landscape - increasing poverty, putting hundreds of thousands of low income Americans out on the streets, denying medical assistance to the low income disabled and elderly, and eviscerating the SNAP or “food stamps” program. Boehner would have American Society regress to the era of the 30's as described by John Steinbeck in his great and tragic novel, “The Grapes of Wrath.”

Boehner’s plan can properly be called “class warfare,” and a significant consequence of this class warfare can't help but translate to racial warfare, as well.

As we all know by now, Boehner’s manifesto rejects all tax increases. A House GOP aide talking about the Republican members of the deficit reduction committee (“the gang of six”) said bluntly: “We appoint members to the committee, and we’re not appointing any Republicans who will vote for tax hikes.”

Instead, a $1.8 trillion reduction will come from “entitlement reforms and savings.”

This savings will be acquired over the next ten years by one of three possible methods – all equally draconian:

•Behind Door Number One: Cut Social Security and Medicare benefits heavily for current retirees - a form of political suicide that even extremists like Boehner will not actually contemplate.

•Door Number Two: Repeal the Affordable Care Act’s coverage expansions while retaining its strictures that cut Medicare payments and raise tax revenues. However, Republicans will seek to repeal many of those measures as well. (Yes, I am also confused by this last).

•Door Number Three: Completely obliterate the social safety net for low-income children, parents, senior citizens, and people with disabilities.

Absent any compromise on tax increases, there are simply no other ways to obtain $1.8 trillion in entitlement cuts within the next decade.

In addition (yes, it gets worse), House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s own plan would slash Medicaid and health reform by $2.2 trillion. Ryan would also cut $127 billion from SNAP and reduce Pell Grants and other student financial assistance by $126 billion. Looking for an education to get you a better job or pull you solidly into the middle class? Keep looking. And remember what happened to Oliver Twist when he asked for more soup.

Previously, core assistance programs for the poor were exempted from across the board cuts by the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings law, enacted in 1985. Now, the “Cut, Cap, and Balance” bill will remove these exemptions. With an election coming up, which door are the Republicans likely to choose? Don’t all answer at once. The entitlement cuts will most heavily target the programs created for people of lesser means and, yes Virginia, less political power.

Meanwhile, the many lucrative tax breaks that benefit the wealthy and the powerful corporations have been pledged protection by Boehner who certainly shows great sympathy for the robber baron class if no one else.

Extra credit question: Who said, "This person suffering from hereditary defects costs the community $60,000 during his lifetime. Fellow Countryman, that is your money, too."

a) Charles Darwin
b) Sarah Palin
c) Office of Social Policy’s “A New People”
(hint: “C” was translated from the German)

All of the above is written in my own words. My major source for the information came from the non partisan outfit, Center on Budget and Policy Priorities: http://www.cbpp.org/files/7-25-11bud-stmt.pdf.

P*ss poor attitude copped from Bill the Cat (Remember him? Bloom County? Never mind)

PS This is NOT a diatribe directed at any member of CD (unless John Boehner became a member when I wasn’t looking), but if thinking so helps you get through another night scrounging through the dumpsters, feel free.
I have a big feeling you are living on the government's dole, hence this post. I am not saying I agree with these cuts, on the other hand ,none of these cuts if they happened would affect me so there would not be an outrage on my part if they happened.
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Old 08-28-2011, 09:10 PM
 
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Dude, Bloom County was the worst cartoon strip ever created.
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Old 08-28-2011, 09:16 PM
 
Location: mancos
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I have a big feeling you are living on the government's dole, hence this post. I am not saying I agree with these cuts, on the other hand ,none of these cuts if they happened would affect me so there would not be an outrage on my part if they happened.
yeah working every day trying to pay the bills leaves little room to worry about the others whose bills you are also expected to pay. there are just to many of them. heck I'm a cripple still doing carpenter work,as a white single male I only qualify to pay not recieve. the underground economy is all that keeps me from starving. new way of life for the working class.
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Old 08-28-2011, 09:39 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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Dude, Bloom County was the worst cartoon strip ever created.


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I have a big feeling you are living on the government's dole, hence this post. I am not saying I agree with these cuts, on the other hand ,none of these cuts if they happened would affect me so there would not be an outrage on my part if they happened.
Replies like yours and parfleche's allow me to see why the US has gotten into such a mess. People don't care what's going on in their own country. You'd probably care if they tried to re-introduce prohibition, but beyond that? I don't drink, so why should I be concerned with you?

There's this whole "us" vs "them" head that goes on not just here, but everywhere. Everyone is busy protecting their own little bit of turf. It's understandable, but it doesn't get us anywhere.

You can think of me as "living on the dole" if it makes you feel better, although that's not who I am.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:14 PM
 
Location: mancos
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things are bad for me right now also.I cannot aford to feed clothes house and buy big screen tv's for everyone else right now.obamas stash is only what he steals from the working class and we are broke. what else do you want from us
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:19 PM
 
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Socialism is dying in England, the people who have been on the dole for so long now believe that they are going to recieve money for nothing for the rest of their lives. The only problem is that the Government is out of money and can not continue to pay for people who can work. We have the same problem, so it may take a little longer but look for the riots to happen here.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:24 PM
 
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If you're talking about a brewing class warfare with millions of Americans out of work and/or living on the dole and simmering racial tensions look no further than Barack Hussein Obama. He and his enablers in the media have been doing a great job dividing this country into the haves and have-nots, the religious and the non-religious, the Red States and the Blue States, the good poor minorities and the bad rich whites, et al.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:27 PM
 
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I've posted this sentiment elsewhere on c-d, but this thread is just screaming for it, so here it is again:
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"...the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; those who are in the shadows of life; the sick, the needy and the handicapped. " ~ Last Speech of Hubert H. Humphrey
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:38 PM
 
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From what I have seen we really started having more problems since the 60's so called social programs really. I think perhpas having to work at survival will have a good effect that the porgrams caused really.
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