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08-22-2007, 04:18 PM
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If one believes that life begins at conception, as I do, then this pill is just another form of infanticide. What is the problem with either abstaining or giving an unwanted baby up for adoption to a loving family? Let us celebrate what a gift life is and stop coming up with new ways to destroy it.
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08-22-2007, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by citigirl
Pergnant? No problem.....pop a pill! Personal responsibility absolved in a heartbeat. What a world!
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So does personal responsibility mean abstaining from sex when married until the pair is ready to welcome a child into the family?
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08-22-2007, 04:52 PM
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So does personal responsibility mean abstaining from sex when married until the pair is ready to welcome a child into the family?
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Yes. Sex for any purpose other than procreation is sinful. Aquinas figured it all out once...can't recall exactly, but I think you get to have sex about 50 times in your life and that's it!
Some of you are over your limit...
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08-22-2007, 04:54 PM
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StillwaterTownie-- you can still have sex while married even if you do not want children. Have you heard of birth control? Or, if that fails, and you don't want a child, try finding a wonderful couple who would adopt your unwanted baby. It's a much more noble solution than murdering it.
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08-22-2007, 05:04 PM
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I don't find very much noble in the matter of compulsory childbirth. Especially if considered compulsory because of somebody else's personal religious beliefs.
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08-22-2007, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by my2kidsmom
If one believes that life begins at conception, as I do, then this pill is just another form of infanticide. What is the problem with either abstaining or giving an unwanted baby up for adoption to a loving family? Let us celebrate what a gift life is and stop coming up with new ways to destroy it.
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Did you know that the health risks for a woman carrying a child to full term and delivering it far outweigh the risk she faces with an abortion? What if the woman doesn't want to risk her own health just to give a baby away to someone because the kids in orphanages aren't good enough for them?
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08-22-2007, 09:03 PM
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DontH8Me- I'm sorry, no, I don't believe what you said about women's health regarding abortion vs. delivering. There is no way I buy what you have said. To become pregnant, maintain a pregnancy and deliver a baby is natural. To abort a baby is UNnatural. What you say about children in orphanages not being good enough is very sad to me. It is as sad that they are as unwanted as babies who are aborted. Our soceity needs to recognize how valuable life is, and how precious children are at all stages of life.
Saganista--I mean not to impose my religious beliefs on anyone else.It's not about religion, it is about life and death. For me, I mean to speak for the innocent unborn who have no voice of their own. I have children and they were wanted and planned. Newborn babies, no matter how they come into the world, have a beautiful innocent quality. One cannot put it into words. Every baby deserves the best, and it makes me very sad to think that some do not have that. It is just as sad for me to think that some are robbed of that first breath because their mommies aborted them.
Fortunately there are so many wonderful people in the world who would love to provide a home and life for unewanted babies. I much rather would have babies go to them. How am I wrong? I just can't justify denying a baby life because it's inconvienent for the birth parents. There are options.
Last edited by my2kidsmom; 08-22-2007 at 09:06 PM..
Reason: spelling error
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08-22-2007, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie
So does personal responsibility mean abstaining from sex when married until the pair is ready to welcome a child into the family?
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There is the option of birth control. It's been around for a very long time and I am sure you have heard of it.
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08-22-2007, 10:26 PM
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DontH8Me- I'm sorry, no, I don't believe what you said about women's health regarding abortion vs. delivering.
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Nevertheless, it is true...by a factor of about ten.
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Originally Posted by my2kidsmom
Saganista--I mean not to impose my religious beliefs on anyone else.It's not about religion, it is about life and death.
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In your mind, perhaps. But that simply does not compute over on my end. What makes your view superior to mine?
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Originally Posted by my2kidsmom
Fortunately there are so many wonderful people in the world who would love to provide a home and life for unewanted babies.
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There is not a shortage of the unwanted waiting for adoption. In fact, there is a substantial surplus. Where all all the wonderful people for them?
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I much rather would have babies go to them. How am I wrong?
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You are wrong because you seek to violate both of the two essential human rights that the country was founded upon: the right to freedom of conscience, and the right to be left alone.
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Originally Posted by my2kidsmom
I just can't justify denying a baby life because it's inconvienent for the birth parents.
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Then you must support the idea of every woman having as many babies as she physically can. Eighteen, nineteen, twenty...more in some cases? Is that your idea, or do you cede couples the right to call it quits after a number of their choosing. If you cede them that right, what means of enforcing that right do you offer them?
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08-22-2007, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by citigirl
There is the option of birth control. It's been around for a very long time and I am sure you have heard of it.
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Yes, and every method of it fails at one time or another, leaving a woman facing an unwanted pregnancy and needing to take on the very significant personal responsibility of deciding what to do about that. Of course, there are a few who completely abdicate their personal responsibility by doing not what they believe to be best, but what they are told would be best by some meddling, moralizing interloper...
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