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I really can't see your meat at all. Does it satisfy anyone apart from you?
Great response. When you have no knowledge of what constitutes a valid study, you are unable to determine whether or not the information you "know for certain" is valid or not. I am sorry- that is simply a fact and is amusing to observe the global warming cult comment on "science" when they have no clue about science at all.
"It is not the things that we don't know that get us into trouble. It is the things we know for sure that just aint so."
Sorry Glitch, thought I would save time by pre-empting the "Wait and see" conclusion. Sorry if I misjudged you. However, if that wasn't your point what was it?
Please tell us where you were going with your remark...
What part of "The point he was trying to make was that there are so many unknowns with regard to climate that it makes predicting future climate change mere speculation, not science" did you not comprehend?
Climate change has as much to do with science as astrology or tarot cards. They cannot even accurately predict the weather, and you think any predictions about climate change is somehow going to be more accurate? That is clearly a case of self-delusion.
Only for "cherry pickers" is it a problem. There are countless centuries that were warmer than the preceding century. Even before humans existed. So picking a century and claiming it was warmer than the preceding century is no big deal. All it takes is a little bit of "cherry-picking."
Because there is no empirical evidence to demonstrate that man is a problem, or that the climate is being effected in any way by anything we are capable of doing.
The polar ice caps did not exist for most of the planet's history. They are a recent development that resulted from continental shifts, and yes, that preceded man by over 40 million years. To judge how things are through the myopic viewpoint of human history is moronic and damages your argument.
The planet was considerable warmer in the past, with a lot more CO2 in the atmosphere than there is today. Long before humans existed.
You do not know how good you have it. The climate could be, and has been, a great deal worse than it is today. As 99.9% of all the life on this planet has already discovered, either we adapt to the changing climate or we become extinct. Welcome to reality.
And mother nature lines up the kick ...and...and ...
Sorry, got a date, so to save time some quick replies in bold within G's comment:
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Originally Posted by Glitch
Only for "cherry pickers" is it a problem. There are countless centuries that were warmer than the preceding century. Even before humans existed. So picking a century and claiming it was warmer than the preceding century is no big deal. All it takes is a little bit of "cherry-picking."
TB says: it's the rate of change that's causing concern.
Because there is no empirical evidence to demonstrate that man is a problem, or that the climate is being effected in any way by anything we are capable of doing.
TB says: There is. Just Google "empirical evidence for AGW"
The polar ice caps did not exist for most of the planet's history. They are a recent development that resulted from continental shifts, and yes, that preceded man by over 40 million years. To judge how things are through the myopic viewpoint of human history is moronic and damages your argument.
TB says: Nope because it's affecting us and will affect our children more
The planet was considerable warmer in the past, with a lot more CO2 in the atmosphere than there is today. Long before humans existed.
TB says: yes we know that. So what's your point?
You do not know how good you have it. The climate could be, and has been, a great deal worse than it is today. As 99.9% of all the life on this planet has already discovered, either we adapt to the changing climate or we become extinct. Welcome to reality.
TB says: do you believe in evolution? If so, please explain how the rest of the biosphere including the crops that feed us will adapt in time?
Just like a few months back when they said it was going to be an "Above normal Hurrican season" and so far it's WAY below normal...Guess what? They predicted an above normal season every year for the last 3 years... Didn't happen. Global Warming scare tactics FAIL
Why not err on the side of caution? To run the risk of error is far too great...
Glitch just may get that extinction faster than planned.
Because that error will completely destroy the economy, turn citizens into tax-slaves, and give government unprecedented powers to oppress. Which explains why only liberal freaks are pushing this agenda. That is their idea of utopia.
Everything becomes extinct eventually, why would we be any different? All it takes is a CME or gamma-ray burst of sufficient size and we could be toast tomorrow.
What part of "The point he was trying to make was that there are so many unknowns with regard to climate that it makes predicting future climate change mere speculation, not science" did you not comprehend?
Climate change has as much to do with science as astrology or tarot cards. They cannot even accurately predict the weather, and you think any predictions about climate change is somehow going to be more accurate? That is clearly a case of self-delusion.
Right so you're playing the "I don't know the difference between weather and climate" card? Interesting how you think that makes you look good.
When you have a debate and you say something, it's supposed to aid your argument. It's supposed to lead to a conclusion. You have made a statement that claims that climate change predictions are speculation. Now I want to know whether you had a point or not.
If you stick with your unsubstantiated claim which displays a fundamental mis-understanding of climate science, then I'll rip it to shreads when I get back. If however, you were using it as a step towards a conclusion, then present your conclusion and I'll see if I can shread that. (Best to get the pain over with, all in one go: I find it more merciful that way.)
Great response. When you have no knowledge of what constitutes a valid study, you are unable to determine whether or not the information you "know for certain" is valid or not. I am sorry- that is simply a fact and is amusing to observe the global warming cult comment on "science" when they have no clue about science at all.
"It is not the things that we don't know that get us into trouble. It is the things we know for sure that just aint so."
Mark Twain
Still no meat. You really are a committed veggie aren't you? Wouldn't touch meat even to salvage his reputation!
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. When you have no knowledge of what constitutes a valid study, you are unable to determine whether or not the information you "know for certain" is valid or not. I am sorry- that is simply a fact and is amusing to observe the global warming cult comment on "science" when they have no clue about science at all.
