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Old 09-01-2011, 06:47 AM
 
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Tratova -


Women are not as severely repressed by fundamentalist Christians but they are not by any means completely free to make their own decisions concerning their own bodies or lives. At their core both Islam and Christianity consider women to be the property of their fathers or husbands.
The only reason that women have any rights in the US is thanks to the influence of liberals. If it were up to Christian religious nutjobs we would all be barefoot and pregnant.

And not allowed to work (well except maybe with permission of the father or husband).

And not allowed to vote.

And not allowed to own property.

Wasn't it just over a hundred years ago that women in the US were expected to dress so as to cover themselves from head to toe?

Here is a sampling of Christian nutcases at work:

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The bill, sponsored by state Rep. Phil Jensen, a committed foe of abortion rights, alters the state's legal definition of justifiable homicide by adding language stating that a homicide is permissible if committed by a person "while resisting an attempt to harm" that person's unborn child or the unborn child of that person's spouse, partner, parent, or child. If the bill passes, it could in theory allow a woman's father, mother, son, daughter, or husband to kill anyone who tried to provide that woman an abortion—even if she wanted one.
South Dakota Moves To Legalize Killing Abortion Providers | Mother Jones

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In Utah, the governor signed into law a bill known as the “miscarriage bill” that could send a woman to prison for life if someone thinks the woman engaged in any activity that may have caused the miscarriage. The law “designates intentional or knowing miscarriage as criminal homicide” for the death of an unborn child unless there was a legal abortion provided. The law means if a woman drinks too much caffeine, falls down a flight of stairs, or is in an abusive relationship and miscarries she could face a long prison sentence
The Christian Reconstructionists New Crusade against American Women

And lest we forget, the Catholic church, a mainstream Christian organization, does not consider women fit to hold positions of authority.

'nuff said?
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Old 09-01-2011, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Tratova -

Are you taking Social Security or any of the other things provided by our government? If so please stop and go somewhere else with you hatred.


President Obama is NOT a socialist. I am and do not approve of most of his policies.

"Christians" imposing their anti-abortion agenda are oppressing women in a most fundamental way. Women are not as severely repressed by fundamentalist Christians but they are not by any means completely free to make their own decisions concerning their own bodies or lives. At their core both Islam and Christianity consider women to be the property of their fathers or husbands.
Who told you that in Christianity woman are the property of fathers and husbands? The word of God does not say that.. Jesus liberated the woman.. As any good father would want, is the best for their children. what does liberals have to offer?

As I said it is a choice. Everyone has been given a free will and they can exercise it as they choose.

Basically everyone believes something and if they are not a Christian in America , one usually believes in humanism.

As far as anyone on Social Security today... maybe if they choose not to go onto Social Security,, the government should give back the money they put into the system with interest included. Otherwise they have every right to collect for what they put into it.

Foodstamps , welfare, medicaid are all handouts and no one put their money into it.. attack those freebees...
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Old 09-01-2011, 07:33 AM
 
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I am referring to their support of radical Islamists groups in the Middle East. Lefties believe (or so they say) in democracy, tolerance, diversity, love, peace and non-violence. But these Islamists groups only want terror, violence, and sharia. On the other hand, they have so much hatred for Israel. Israel is not perfect but they are the closest to a peace loving democracy in the Middle East.
Actually Libya is the closest to a peace loving democracy in the Middle East... NATO and the U.S. want to destroy Libya in order to put them in debt...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek
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Old 09-01-2011, 07:37 AM
 
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The simple answer is that the far Left made a deal with the devil. They teamed up with radical Islam to help each other get what they want. Islam wants a caliphate and the far Left wants a Communist America. It's called the Red Green Alliance. Look it up!
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Old 09-01-2011, 07:42 AM
 
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I am referring to their support of radical Islamists groups in the Middle East.

First of all, that's nonsense. I don't know anyone other than radical Islamists who support radical Islam.

Liberals DO have a tendency to adhere to Enlightenment principles such as free speech. This is right in line with the oft-misattributed quote (it wasn't Voltaire) of "I don't agree with what you say, but I defend your right to say it."

Sadly this is a concept that seems beyond the comprehension of simplistic thinking right wing extremists, as well as left-wing extremists.

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Lefties

Leftist is not necessarily the same thing as liberal. See above.

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believe (or so they say) in democracy, tolerance, diversity, love, peace and non-violence. But these Islamists groups only want terror, violence, and sharia.
Refer to the quote above.


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On the other hand, they have so much hatred for Israel.

Baloney. They sometimes disagree with Israeli governmental policy. Unless you think Israel is infallible and all its actions and decisions unquestionable, so do you.

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Israel is not perfect but they are the closest to a peace loving democracy in the Middle East.
Mmmmm...I think Jordan might have them beat in the peace-loving category by a small margin.
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Old 09-01-2011, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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The simple answer is that the far Left made a deal with the devil. They teamed up with radical Islam to help each other get what they want. Islam wants a caliphate and the far Left wants a Communist America. It's called the Red Green Alliance. Look it up!
Apparently you suffer from awful nightmares. I wish you a speedy recovery.
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Old 09-01-2011, 07:45 AM
 
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The simple answer is that the far Left made a deal with the devil. They teamed up with radical Islam to help each other get what they want. Islam wants a caliphate and the far Left wants a Communist America. It's called the Red Green Alliance. Look it up!
I'll need a proctoscope for that.

Bend over.
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Old 09-01-2011, 07:47 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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I'll need a proctoscope for that.

Bend over.
Thanks. I just did a spit-take all over my monitor.
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Old 09-01-2011, 07:47 AM
 
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Libya Truth (DnB Soundtrack) - YouTube
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Old 09-01-2011, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Liberal: Someone so open-minded his brains fell out.

A liberal is the sort of person who, seeing a beaten and bloodied crime victim in a ditch, says "We've got to help...the guy that did this!"
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