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Even if they were the most devout men who ever lived, the fact remains that they gave us a Constitution devoid of any references to a god or to religion, aside from guaranteeing its free exercise and forbidding its legal establishment.
The Constitution prohibits Congress from making a law establishing a religion, yes.
Our Declaration of Independence is considered to be one of our "founding documents". It makes reference to our inalienable rights being god given.
But, I think you are trying to advance an idea here that the founders would not agree with. This isn't hard to discern from your post.
In colonial times, no one would have thought that a day would come when some would aver that they (the founders) intended to keep their faith (the Christian faith) out of their political thinking, and I think any attempt to do so would be nearly impossible, wouldn't you?
Our beliefs shape our thoughts about everything. Your beliefs cause you to seek to nullify what we know to be true about our founders thinking by their own works.
For some reason, you feel threatened by Christianity.
But, we cannot apply modern attitudes about religion to colonial thought. People in colonial America attended church regularly. Sermons often were discussions or dissertations on politics. The churches played a central roll in the communities.
Unless you burn everything that was ever published from colonial America, your attempts to rewrite history will be futile.
Uh-huh. I thought you might just be splitting hairs until you added this:
The rise of the MM (which was neither, btw) is the prime example of when politics in the country changed for the worse.
We're still left dealing with their putrid and hateful influence.
Oh please, the Moral Majority were a flash in the pan. After Reagan dissed them in 1984 by refusing to support their Prayer Amendment they faded from existence into obscurity. Only to spring up again six years later, this time as the Christian Coalition, in 1990.
What I want from a political candidate is solid opinion on issues, creativity on problem solving, and common sense. I indeed also want them to have solid moral values and footing, but I dont need them to remind me of it constantly.
And where do those "solid moral values" come from if not from their faith?
But given your posting history, you clearly hate liberals and Obama. So why do you not accept that some people might hate religious conservatives? They're just behaving in the same way as you.
No, I do not hate them at all. I strongly disagree with their policies and in the case of some of them, I am disgusted by their dishonesty.
I am a fiscal conservative. I am very liberal on "some" social issues. I believe in gay marriage, legalizing drugs and prostitution and ending the wars (although wars seem to be something both sides like).
The main difference between liberals and me is I believe in living a certain way because "I" choose to. Liberals believe they should be able to decide how others live because "they" believe it is for the betterment of society. So even though I believe some of the individual things they do and I live green and clean, we come at it from a completely different point of view.
Also, being an unaffiliated voter I am not tied to one side or the other. Liberals pretty much defend Obama for doing the same things they crucified Bush for doing. I call 'em as I see them. Note how I called out Bachman for her insane statements. It is what it is.
He was speaking (pandering?) to evangelicals about his religious beliefs. When has he promoted policies (legislation) based on his beliefs? You know, like Bush II did when he said God told him to invade Iraq... BBC - Press Office - George Bush on Elusive Peace
So now you want to change what it means to say it? "That depends on what the meaning of say is".
And yes, Obama backed up what he said when he was pandering. You may want to take a read at what he has been able to pass since he became POTUS.
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