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View Poll Results: Time to close the USPS?
Yes 32 16.75%
No 146 76.44%
Unsure 7 3.66%
Other 6 3.14%
Voters: 191. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-03-2017, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Mandatory prefunding of pensions. It's been a problem ever since this brilliant idea came along. Read about it here ... The Truth About The Post Office's Financial Mess .
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Old 04-03-2017, 03:02 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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You're lost in your own words. The bold are exactly the same thing. USPS accepts mail and packages. Amazon accepts products of all sizes (for the most part) and sends them to customers.

There's nothing different between the two ways of how they operate. Hiring people to package products at Amazon vs. not at USPS does nothing significant, it's just a minor detail in the large distribution network.

The only thing you need to worry about is how does the input (mail/products, etc..) reach the output (destination) in an efficient manner.


Possibly. But, then again, Amazon doesn't present itself as a carrier. So maybe you're the one who's tangled up a bit.


But you're so dead set that the more expensive UPS and FedEx (and loss prone, at least in my experience, as well as slower, again in my experience) are somehow "better" than USPS, which also offers a much wider range of services.


I can only go by my own, as well as others experience. When I order something from a single vendor which has to be split up between USPS and either UPS or FedEx the Post Office part of the shipment arrives days sooner and in better shape. And with FedEx the chance of the item being misdelivered runs about 40%.
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Old 04-03-2017, 04:07 PM
 
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One of the complaints is that USPS has consolidated into regional sorting facilities. An example would be that if I mail a letter from where I am to the next town it goes 50 miles away to the regional facility instead of a local truck 5 miles.
Which is a more efficient way to do things. Filling up one truck to go to a regional sort center which then sends them to the other local offices in other full trucks is cheaper than using 10 1/4 full trucks at each local office to go to the other local offices.

FedEx and UPS to the exact same thing. I'm in Boston and use FedEx Ground. If I ship a package to Maine, it goes to a local hub 5 miles away and then 85 miles south to Willington, CT. From there, it goes to Saco, ME passing within about 10 miles of the origin hub on it's way north. The difference is that both those trucks were full. Going from the local hub to Maine would be less than full.
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Old 04-03-2017, 09:07 PM
 
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44 cents for a letter is something that every American can afford. Just what would UPS or Fed Express charge for the same service?
Because it is so affordable....that is why it is so n debt and needs to go. Or find a way to make it break even
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:32 PM
 
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I think we could cut back to Monday, Wednesday, Friday residential delivery.
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Old 04-03-2017, 10:39 PM
 
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I think we could cut back to Monday, Wednesday, Friday residential delivery.
I would support cutting back government jobs as long as we end farm subsidies and any other money that benefits the private sector. It is interesting how Republicans hate government jobs but stay silent when money is coming directly into their own pockets.
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Old 04-04-2017, 06:08 AM
 
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Because it is so affordable....that is why it is so n debt and needs to go. Or find a way to make it break even
Actually, the Post Office would be profitable if it weren't required by a Bush 43 era Congressional mandate that has them pre-fund retirement benefits for employees 75 years out. In 2016, the USPS "lost" $200 million dollars but had to put $5.8 billion in that retirement fund - without the mandate, it would have made a profit of $5.6 billion.

No other organization in the United States is required to put money away today for employees it has yet to hire or in some cases, have yet to be born.

https://about.usps.com/news/national...6/pr16_092.htm

Note - I don't work for the USPS or have any stake in it. I just think it's stupid to put such an onerous requirement on the agency.
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:46 AM
 
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I would support cutting back government jobs as long as we end farm subsidies and any other money that benefits the private sector. It is interesting how Republicans hate government jobs but stay silent when money is coming directly into their own pockets.
I was speaking from more of a practicality standpoint. One day a week mail delivery would work for me. I bet 3 days a week would work for most people. I'm a union person, have been for 30+ years but I do not believe in protecting obsolete jobs and never have even though many of my fellow union workers do. I believe in the end better jobs result.
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Old 04-04-2017, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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44 cents for a letter is something that every American can afford.
Its now 49 cents. The post office gave out raises & bonuses. As if they don't make enough already.
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Old 04-04-2017, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Plenty.

Cut back delivery days to five or even three days a week.

Charge more for bulk (junk) mail.

Reduce employee benefits.


Sell more products and services.

Move small postal offices into small stores, such as 7-11s.

Allow the delivery of alcohol.

There's lots they can do.
The bold is probably the only thing that would make a dent. Cutting delivery in half (3 days a week instead of 6) would maybe require fewer employees. However, they'd have twice the mail to deliver, so the difference in hours might not be much.
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