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View Poll Results: Time to close the USPS?
Yes 32 16.75%
No 146 76.44%
Unsure 7 3.66%
Other 6 3.14%
Voters: 191. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-05-2017, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Did I say "cut benefits to slave conditions"? No, that's a strawman. Pension? Who gets a pension these days other than government workers? Document these 12 hour shifts 6-7 days a week, please. Walking 12 hours a day? In my somewhat older neighborhood with individual mailboxes the postal worker drives a truck. The thing is, wages and benefits are the big ticket items. If you're actually going to cut costs, that's where you have to go.
If there were public you can pull the records of Los Angeles area CCAs, They worked 12 on and off from November until late Febuary and there are documented cases of letter carriers being on the streets at 1 AM as they were mandated to keep working. You can search for yourself postal worker threads on this site or just do the google fu. Or are you expecting a Presidential candidates or doctoral thesis to be published for a link that many started demanding in the google era?

Again cut to what slave wages? They are already at entry level McDonald's wages as the postal wage does not adjust for the location. It is the bare minimum to staff Silicon Valley and New York City so workers in Peoria are relatively well of while the slaves elsewhere suffer.
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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If there were public you can pull the records of Los Angeles area CCAs, They worked 12 on and off from November until late Febuary and there are documented cases of letter carriers being on the streets at 1 AM as they were mandated to keep working. You can search for yourself postal worker threads on this site or just do the google fu. Or are you expecting a Presidential candidates or doctoral thesis to be published for a link that many started demanding in the google era?

Again cut to what slave wages? They are already at entry level McDonald's wages as the postal wage does not adjust for the location. It is the bare minimum to staff Silicon Valley and New York City so workers in Peoria are relatively well of while the slaves elsewhere suffer.
I'm done with you. You're creating "strawmen", otherwise known as "putting words in my mouth". I'm not even sure we need to change anything, just saying if you want to cut costs, you have to go after wages and benefits.
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Old 04-05-2017, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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I'm done with you. You're creating "strawmen", otherwise known as "putting words in my mouth". I'm not even sure we need to change anything, just saying if you want to cut costs, you have to go after wages and benefits.
The employees have been cut from over 800,000 to less than 500,000. New employees do not get benefits for a year. Again cut to what?
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Old 04-05-2017, 09:24 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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There are many areas of the country that have historically been serviced only by the USPS. It is one of the few things you can count on in rural areas.
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Old 04-05-2017, 09:24 AM
 
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They should leave the USPS open.

What needs to happen is that congress should quit meddling with it. That is the primary source of their problems.
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