It's all the babyboomers fault! (generations, Baby Boomers, drugs, health care)

[baystater]

I have decided that everything that is wrong with America (and perhaps the world) is the babyboomers (BB) fault. As a group (not individuals) they are the greediest, most short sighted, most vain, and most self-center group. That is going to drive America right off the cliff.

Look where we are today. Housing prices that got so out of control that we needed all types "exotic" loans just of afford them. Of course this was caused by a lot of boomer's getting greedy and thinking they "deserved" these ridiculous high price. Also they got into flipping houses alot which only drove house prices up more. It was insane! That's why I'm extremely happy that a lot of the housing markets are going down the toilet. I pray that things finally get back to being affordable.
On that thought loans, I say BBs also to blame for our current credit crisis. "Barrow, Barrow, Barrow" I think is the Boomer's fight song. BBs have basically borrowed us in to a deep hole that we in the end might not be able to get out of. Where is that Generation's sense of responsibility and accountability. You do have to pay the piper end. And as we've seen lately, the last song is about to be played. Get your ducats ready. Granted I do know a few kid out of my Gen. (Gen x) that are not responsible and are following BBs over the cliff (thanks to the BBs teaching to them). But also know a lot of my Gen. that have been just waiting and watching for the crap to start flying, then swoop in and pick on the carcasses after all the BBs are finished cutting each others throats. So you better be looking over your shoulder because My Generation and the Y's are coming to take your stuff. One last thing on the credit issue. I wonder if the Boomer's ever think about what Greatest Gen. would think of them. Most Greatest Gen that I've had the pleasure to meet are frugal and don't barrow unless they have to. Granted going through a depression and a world war probably made them be responsible. I personally like there approach for the most part. And hope my Gen. will follow there way of being. You own what you own and barrow only when you got to. Yeah we might not see record growth in wealth with this approach, But of course if you if you watched the market lately those who thought they had wealth just found out that it all on paper and ain't for real.
Just two other issue and I promise I'll stop my rant. Now on to how babyboomers have ruined America's standing in the world. Look where we are today. We're the lowest we've ever been in the world standing. When the F did we as a people decide that we needed to quote "spread democracy." and start nation building projects through force of arms. You can throw all the Sept 11 crap out you want. I ain't Buying it. If you really wanted to get the bad guys you should have "spread democracy" to Saudi Arabia and there Madrases that teach their kids to want to kill us. Of course we wouldn't want to do that because there just to many good ties between our current administration (made up of a lot of boomer's) and the house of Saud. Don't get me wrong I didn't like the last administration's "invasion" into Kosovo either. But this is on a whole other level. And my reason for Blaming the BBs on this one is, 1. the commander and chief is a baby boomer, which in turn reflects badly on you guys. and 2. A large percentage of you guys voted for this for lack of a better word numb-skull TWICE! He won both the electoral college and the popular vote. WTF? What were you thinking. Hey you can try to rebuff by saying my Gen was a part of this voting. Yeah but GenX isn't big enough to sway the vote that much and the most of the Y's weren't old enough to vote yet. So that on your heads. You were too afraid or too easily lead to do the right thing and change up leadership when we still had a chance to save face. Thanks alot. It going to take years and a lot of responsible actions by America to win back the trust of the world. Heck on a national level it going to take alot of work to put the trust in the government back into the American people.
This last finger of blame is a preemptive blame. You know And I know you boomer's are living longer and longer. But what is the cost to our society is your long life span? My guess is it going to be pretty expensive to live to 80,90,100 years old. So who's going to have to pay the cost of you guys when you simply can't work any more. Who's going to have to pay the bill of your prescriptions drugs, your hospital stays, your constant doctors visits, etc,etc. I think your going to try to throw that one on us. Here's how I see that playing out. One day your going to get really old and bills because of your health are going to start mounting. And you say what can I do? Then the light bulb goes off and you say "Socialized Medicine that it! So you get all your old friends together that are also in the same boat and start committees on how we need Socialized health care. And eventually your movement ill pick up momentum enough and votes enough to force our politicians to vote for it. And your health wallet is saved by the taxpayers hooray for you. But again my Gen, GenY, and by then the Millenniums is left holding the bag with higher taxes and less wealth. But maybe, Just maybe the Gen X'er,Y'er, and Millenniums can pull together and stop the BBs from stepping on us. And maybe We'll say in a united voice "I'm as mad as hell! and I'm not going to take it anymore!" And then, final then we would be ready to put the Baby Boomers in past, and be able to move on to a brighter future.
We will see.

Yeah. I know my rant was long. So thank to all (including boomer's) that read this far. So did this P.O. you? Or make you think? Well I started it. Now it's your turn to answer. Let have a debate on this board for real. let lose with all you got. No quarter is asked for and none given. But I'm sure we'll have some fun with it while we're at it.
Baystater.

[StillwaterTownie]

Hey, don't blame me on the sorry state of the country as a baby boomer, myself. I didn't vote for Bush in 2000, nor in 2004. But overall, I'll admit the baby boomers in political power and their supporters have certainly been failing America miserably. If America is to go on, it will be up to the previous generation to recognize the mistakes of those baby boomers as being very wrong and stupid and to not repeat them. After all, some of us had older brothers and sisters and saw them do wrong and stupid stuff that got them in serious trouble, and many of us actually learned a lot from watching them and being careful not to repeat what they did as we grew older.

[WallStreetWarrior]

Not to be a dick, but I think the OP spelled "Borrow" wrong, unless of course you're referring to a large mound of earth or stones over the remains of the dead.

Anyways, I don't think the baby boomers are all to blame. It may be the spending habits of baby boomers that the recent generations have inherited, but I don't believe that they are solely responsible. As for Bush being a baby boomer and therefore all baby boomers are bad is not a great statement. I'm personally a GenXer who voted for bush both in 2004 and I'm relatively satisfied with the current state of our nation. To think that it's the baby boomers alone who voted him into office is false.

[BlueWillowPlate]

lol Wallstreetwarrior

This is not the first time this forum has had the babyboomers have come under the vengeful eye of younger folks.
This is what I wrote in other, previous threads:
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Each generation has its challenges.
We had the Cold War, then Vietnam, civil rights/segregation issues.

The way of life the females in your generation take for granted is courtesy of the Boomers.
Do you know what Title IX is?

I think our generation has been sort of America's bridge between the old and the new.
Social justice, women's rights, the environment: these all needed work, they got it on our watch, and America is now better for it. It seems to me that every generation gets their chance to do something, and the "counterculture" of our day was a shift in attitudes.
Did we get it perfectly? Well, probably not. Look at our Boomer President (I never voted for him, btw).
Look at the national debt.
How did this effect the younger generation? I think they are already quite cynical about a lot of issues, and for good reason. As it is, far too many young men and women are dying.
One thing I've noticed when speaking with some younger people: most of them are still in favor of globalization--but not all. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out in years to come.
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One of my biggest disappointments with the Boomers is the way everything, from the soundtrack of our youth to our aging bodies to our careers, has been for sale.
However, just as Wallstreetwarrior says that Bush was not put into office solely by Boomers, blame for the current housing bubble or credit crisis completely cannot rest solely at the Boomers' collective feet.

[skytrekker]

The demographics of America today may tell of a new shift in politics.
Many of the X generation have become disenchanted because; Lack of affordable health care- many have no idea what a pension is, lack of job security, uneven social and economic mobility- many things.

Are baby boomer's to blame? Hard to say. Yes they have committed many 'sins' in the area of economics- however its most likely to be many reasons for the state of the country's mood being so grim today.

[baystater]

Originally Posted by WallStreetWarrior

Not to be a dick, but I think the OP spelled "Borrow" wrong, unless of course you're referring to a large mound of earth or stones over the remains of the dead.

Oh you got me. Thought I spell check everything. My bad.

[Aqualung]

Baby boomers will be remembered as the worst generation, a stark juxtaposition from their parents.

[mbuszu]

if you look up the "babyboomers" and then "generation x" on wikipedia you see this all described in fascinating detail (at least it was fascinating to me).

[Georgepl]

Originally Posted by Aqualung

Baby boomers will be remembered as the worst generation, a stark juxtaposition from their parents.

Ok Mr. Tull, it seems to me that every generation, to some extent, is a product of the previous generation, akin somewhat to a child exhibiting attitudes and beliefs of the parents. Good or bad, "it all starts in the home", so to speak, only we're talking about a whole generation not just one household. To expose a child every day to drunkenness and other bad behavior, and then condemn them when they go out in town and misbehave, is not only ignoring a root cause but intellectually dishonest and hypocritical at best. Whichever generation we're speaking about at the moment didn't just appear out of thin air with their own agenda, they are a product of the previous or all previous generations combined

[baystater]

Originally Posted by cil

lol Wallstreetwarrior

This is not the first time this forum has had the babyboomers have come under the vengeful eye of younger folks.
This is what I wrote in other, previous threads:
************************************************** *
Each generation has its challenges.
We had the Cold War, then Vietnam, civil rights/segregation issues.

The way of life the females in your generation take for granted is courtesy of the Boomers.
Do you know what Title IX is?

I think our generation has been sort of America's bridge between the old and the new.
Social justice, women's rights, the environment: these all needed work, they got it on our watch, and America is now better for it. It seems to me that every generation gets their chance to do something, and the "counterculture" of our day was a shift in attitudes.
Did we get it perfectly? Well, probably not. Look at our Boomer President (I never voted for him, btw).
Look at the national debt.
How did this effect the younger generation? I think they are already quite cynical about a lot of issues, and for good reason. As it is, far too many young men and women are dying.
One thing I've noticed when speaking with some younger people: most of them are still in favor of globalization--but not all. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out in years to come.
************************************************** **

One of my biggest disappointments with the Boomers is the way everything, from the soundtrack of our youth to our aging bodies to our careers, has been for sale.
However, just as Wallstreetwarrior says that Bush was not put into office solely by Boomers, blame for the current housing bubble or credit crisis completely cannot rest solely at the Boomers' collective feet.

Title IX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thanks for the info on Title IX. But let face it. looks like from what I'm reading that it mostly women atheletes getting the benefit of this deal. Actaully if I remember right. Title IX was coming under attack for stripping other male programs out. I not sure where the argument went of if it on going. But I sure it will come up again. Don't be so sure that, that issue is settled. But I do agree that women should definely be well educated with no predjudice. That being said women in are still not making as much money as men for the same jobs. So really have you reach an equality yet?
http://creativeclass.typepad.com/the.../incomegap.pdf
Ok. on your point of socail justice. I'd love to give you credit for really changing the socail enviroment especially with it comes to civil rights. But I can't. Though america has passed laws to stop disrimination because of race and on the surface it look like the boomer changed everything. You really didn't. This is because you didn't really change the mindset of the american people. We are still a racist society. How can I say such a thing? Well I currently live in Northern NJ and though I believe this place is by far the most multicultural area I've ever been to. But from what my eyes are telling me, whites still live in white neighborhoods and blacks in black neighboorhoods and ect. ect. (Btw, I'm white.) And I still here a lot of the same racist views that were hear back in the day. The only difference now from then is that racist views are not outwardly expressed. Heck now that I think of it. Look at the Hurricane Katrina disaster we had. That really showed us how race relations are going in america. Both in our response to and the aftermath of Katrina. You can say all you want about how many laws you passed and all the opportunies you have given to minorities but the simple fact is, the racist mindset was not changed. It still there and still permeates our society. Though one good thing that my Gen is doing to take steps towards slowly, and hopefully ending racissim, is that more of us are having interracial children. I beleive this is basically the only way to really end the issue and change our mindset. We can only hope.
Whatever happened to Integration? | Planetizen
Ok on your enviromental achievements. You guys did help cut down polution level from large corps. Thanks for that. But the biggest threat to the world right now is global climate change hands down. And the sad part is that this was very avoidable. How long has solar technology been around, How long has wind technology, wave energy tech been around. You guys had the technology the whole time but did nothing with it. Yeah it needed improvement but at least it was there to work with. Really think about it. We as a country created a bomb that can level a city and we were able send a man to the moon. But for some reason we can't figure out how to make solar panels more efficient? Come on dude. Also with the windfarm and wave energy. All I hear from people is Not in my back yard. I really beleive this is more of function of personal selfishness. so I guess all of the Gens are to blame for that one.
With Globalization: I beleive that It not that the younger Gen.s are all for globalization. It's just that we know it going to happen whether we like it or not. So it best to be prepared for what is coming down the pipe. Like you said we'll see how it shake out.
P.S. Sorry in advace for any spelling mistakes.