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Old 09-17-2011, 11:40 AM
 
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They did try something....it was called the Stimulus. You know, the one that failed to produce what this President said it would produce. So why in the world should we believe him this time?
Obama is hoping his lemmings didn't notice the failure of the first two "stimulus" tries and similarly hoping they won't actually read the bill.
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Old 09-17-2011, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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It's a sad day in America when the government believes it is the only option available as far as job creation is concerned.

Even if the 236k is on the high end of the estimates whatever the real cost is will certainly cost more than it takes for the private sector to create a similar job.
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Old 09-17-2011, 11:56 AM
 
Location: it depends
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Default Mark Steyn pegged it:

"....But the smartest president in history has calculated that, if he says the same four monosyllables over and over, a nonexistent bill to create nonexistent jobs with nonexistent money will be yet another legislative triumph in the grand tradition of his first stimulus...."

Mark Steyn: Obama’s magical thinking on green jobs | obama, steyn, green - Opinion - The Orange County Register
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Old 09-17-2011, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Is this guy just delusional or what? Well doing a little ciphering that would be 236,000 per job. I guess that would put those folks into the evil rich category and he'll be able to tax em all to pay for the bill which is in his plan too for those making over 200K.

"At a private fundraiser last night, Obama said his proposal would create 1.9 millions jobs (http://news.yahoo.com/obama-says-jobs-plan-could-create-1-9-054214050.html - broken link), while reducing the 9.1% unemployment rate by a percentage point; he also said it would add two percentage points to the gross domestic product."

Obama: My bill will create 1.9 million jobs
He said the his first bill would hold unemployment under 8 %
You want to know how you know how he lies?
he lies when he speaks

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Old 09-17-2011, 12:20 PM
 
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and add as many as 1.9 million jobs,
Add as many as?

So somewhere between ZERO and 1.9 million, depending on whether or not he gets to count the "jobs saved" metric his administration invented to rationalize the first stimulus' dismal failure.
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Old 09-17-2011, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I'll believe it when (more likely if) it happens.
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Old 09-17-2011, 02:29 PM
 
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Add as many as?

So somewhere between ZERO and 1.9 million, depending on whether or not he gets to count the "jobs saved" metric his administration invented to rationalize the first stimulus' dismal failure.
Well, in the case of Solyndra, Obama touted to the public that it would create 65,000 jobs. In reality it created 3,545 jobs at a cost to the taxpayers of over half a billion $. I guess dot bob believes in Obama's fuzzy math despite proof of repeated lies. The estimate from Obama's bill of union and donor paybacks is more of the same.
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Nevada
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This is the change we'll have left.....



If we're lucky.
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Don't worry. You'll all get to sit back and watch nothing happen very slowly.

I'm sure it will create 1.9 Million temporary jobs. Someone will get to work for 90 days roofing a school. Someone else will work 60 days replacing windows. Someone else will work 6 weeks shoveling blacktop on some nameless stretch of interstate highway.

And I'm sure the Obamaclowns will spin it like Blow Job Bill. We gave laptops to police, and that reduced police over-time by 428 hours and 428 hours of over-time is 642 hours of straight time and 642 hours of straight time is 16 forty-hour work weeks and that equals 16 jobs "created."

Never mind that no taxes were paid or collected or that a human body is not physically present.

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Or maybe address the problem of the underemployed? Those who, after months (years) of searching, found gainful employment but only part time or full time at an unliveable wage regardless of experience/education. Their numbers aren't reflected, and they are a huge part of the unemployment picture.
There's nothing to be done. Even those jobs will disappear or have reduced hours over time.

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Allowing demand to fall further will see more people lose their jobs, which means the tax revenue is lost and then they use government services. That means our debt will grow.
Obama should have thought about that before he recklessly added $4.13 TRILLION to the National Debt.
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Old 09-17-2011, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Don't worry. You'll all get to sit back and watch nothing happen very slowly.

I'm sure it will create 1.9 Million temporary jobs. Someone will get to work for 90 days roofing a school. Someone else will work 60 days replacing windows. Someone else will work 6 weeks shoveling blacktop on some nameless stretch of interstate highway.

And I'm sure the Obamaclowns will spin it like Blow Job Bill. We gave laptops to police, and that reduced police over-time by 428 hours and 428 hours of over-time is 642 hours of straight time and 642 hours of straight time is 16 forty-hour work weeks and that equals 16 jobs "created."

Never mind that no taxes were paid or collected or that a human body is not physically present.



There's nothing to be done. Even those jobs will disappear or have reduced hours over time.



Obama should have thought about that before he recklessly added $4.13 TRILLION to the National Debt.
Perhaps understanding what a Stimulus program is designed to do will help. Table 1 in the link provided is kind of a summary.

Economic Stimulus: Evaluating Proposed Changes in Tax Policy
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