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Old 09-21-2011, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I belive it SHOULD be a right..but that BECAUSE it is taxed. it is not a right
You're half way there. But still not accepting that property is not a right. But then, when we speak of "rights", are we talking about rights afforded to you by local/state laws (property tax falls in that category)? Or, federal?

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its the same with marriage....its NOT a right in the united states...not when you have to ask and pay for permission (a license tax) for it
Marriage is not something government should intervene on, either. But religious corruption demands that it must.
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:35 PM
 
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Personally, I believe that there should be no such thing as property tax, because I believe owning a property is a right. Do you agree? Or do you believe that ownership of property is not a right?
Anotherwords, you support a communist platform where you have rights to things you havent earned?
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Anotherwords, you support a communist platform where you have rights to things you havent earned?
Perhaps I do, among many other things. And so did the founders (although, they were around before the contemporary idea of communism). See fifth amendment.
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:47 PM
 
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Perhaps I do, among many other things. And so did the founders (although, they were around before the contemporary idea of communism). See fifth amendment.
I did see the 5th amendment, hell I pointed it out to you already on this very thread. Lets quote it so we're on the same page..

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation

This means you cant have things taken from you but no where in here does it say you have a right to a home, (or property). It says you can acquire those things and if the government takes them from you, they should compensate you, but that doenst make it a right.

Again, a right cant be taken from you, and if it was a right, you could demand one. Again, where do the homeless go to exercise that RIGHT to a home?
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Why mention property in bill of rights, if it ain't a right?
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:49 PM
 
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Why mention property in bill of rights, if it ain't a right?
Because protection your assets isnt the same as claiming you should have assets you havent paid for.
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Because protection your assets isnt the same as claiming you should have assets you havent paid for.
Oh, "asset" not "property". In any case, who but you has claimed ownership to that point?
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Old 09-21-2011, 01:02 PM
 
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It was nothing but a power grab attempt. Bush wanted to take F&F and place them under the White House and Treasury as opposed to the Congress. Other than that Bush fed the fire by lowering the lending standards some 40 times, particularly to low income minorities who did not qualify for loan.
Bush attempted to have Glass-Stegal reinstated, a Democrat controlled Congress would not allow it. Barney Frank continued to claim that there was no financial problems with Freddie Mac......while his boyfriend profited.

The guy who made $$ and slinked off quietly and scott free was Christopher Dodd. He should be in the Federal Pen.
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Old 09-21-2011, 01:03 PM
 
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You have the freedom and the right to own property if you have the money to pay for it.
Folks would not be homeless if they had money.
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Old 09-21-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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Oh, "asset" not "property". In any case, who but you has claimed ownership to that point?
Property is an asset. Why are you having such difficulty understanding the difference between not allowing government to take something you own, and saying you have a right to own something that you dont?

If its a right you can demand one, and not even pay for it. Again, can you do that with a home?
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