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Old 09-28-2011, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I see it. The guy admits he doesn't qualify for running as POTUS, but still wants to.
No. The guy actually has a complaint in Federal Court on that issue. So he does not "admit"he's not qualified to be president. You really didn't read the letter. Did you?



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FEC says he can, then later on in the letter it says that in order for the FEC act to let him run he must FIRST meet all other obligations first. So which is it?
Wrong. The FEC says he can run, and never contradicts that. They also say he can't qualify for matching funds. Two different questions. Two different answers. No contradiction.

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Does the FEC let a known unqualified person run for POTUS or do they not? The letter seems to say both things.
Nope. The letter says only one of those things.
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:51 PM
 
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no, I dont want the to 'rule'....what I want is the FEC (federal ELECTIONS) to follow the LAW


it is just STUPID to tell a person, yes you can be a candidate for that office.. but you cant be elected to that office

fact: by law he cant be potus...therefore BY LAW he should not even be allowed to run...the FEC has FAILED to grasp that FACT
You're so confused it's comical. They are following the law by not ruling on questions the law they are following doesn't address.

You should be arguing to have the law changed....but you can't grasp this...lol
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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correct but he can get contributions(2nd para)
Only as long as he doesn't misrepresent himself as actually being eligible. And of course, the FEC can't know ahead of time if he will or not, so they can't apply prior restraint.
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You're so confused it's comical. They are following the law by not ruling on questions the law they are following doesn't address.

You should be arguing to have the law changed....but you can't grasp this...lol
I am not confused,,except from the doubletalk that come from the government and you

FACT: the guy (or arnold) cant become POTUS..........so riddle me this..if he cant become POTUS..then how can he be ALLOWED to be a candidite and RUN for an office he cant hold

that is the FACTS here

the FEC should rule that he CANT run, because (under current law) he doesnt QUALIFY...but no the FEC want to doubletalk and say ""we see no problem with you running...but dont expect to tale office"""
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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no, I dont want the to 'rule'....what I want is the FEC (federal ELECTIONS) to follow the LAW
They have. Whether you want to or not, you are asking them to invent additional law and infringe unconstitutionally on the powers of another branch.

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it is just STUPID to tell a person, yes you can be a candidate for that office.. but you cant be elected to that office
But, but, but... I thought you said you wanted them to "follow the law?" Were you just pretending?

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fact: by law he cant be potus...therefore BY LAW he should not even be allowed to run...the FEC has FAILED to grasp that FACT
Note the difference between "is" and "ought." Your first phrase is a statement of what the law is. Your second is a statement of what the law ought to be, but apparently is not.

Perhaps you should invest this otherwise pointless frothing to getting the law changed to what you think it ought to be, but currently is not.
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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the FEC should rule that he CANT run, because (under current law) he doesnt QUALIFY...but no the FEC want to doubletalk and say ""we see no problem with you running...but dont expect to tale office"""
There you go again.

5th grade civics, wch. Separation of Powers.
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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I am not confused,,except from the doubletalk that come from the government and you

FACT: the guy (or arnold) cant become POTUS..........so riddle me this..if he cant become POTUS..then how can he be ALLOWED to be a candidite and RUN for an office he cant hold

that is the FACTS here

the FEC should rule that he CANT run, because (under current law) he doesnt QUALIFY...but no the FEC want to doubletalk and say ""we see no problem with you running...but dont expect to tale office"""
The FEC is not part of the judicial branch. They don't have the authority to prevent a person from running for office. They can tell that person up-front that they are not eligible for the office, but it's up to the courts, NOT the FEC, to tell a person that they actually cannot take office. The FEC does not have the authority that you are ascribing to it. ONLY the judiciary has that authority. So, you're wrong. Because you want the executive branch of government to use a power that they don't have, that belongs to the judicial branch.
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The FEC is not part of the judicial branch. They don't have the authority to prevent a person from running for office. They can tell that person up-front that they are not eligible for the office, but it's up to the courts, NOT the FEC, to tell a person that they actually cannot take office. The FEC does not have the authority that you are ascribing to it. ONLY the judiciary has that authority. So, you're wrong. Because you want the executive branch of government to use a power that they don't have, that belongs to the judicial branch.
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They don't have the authority to prevent a person from running for office.
they dont....they are the FEC (federal ELECTION commission) they can say whther a person is eligible by CURRENT LAW...I am not asking them to MAKE the law..or even change the law...but at least FOLLOW it

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They can tell that person up-front that they are not eligible for the office, but it's up to the courts, NOT the FEC, to tell a person that they actually cannot take office.
fact is if they cant take office, then they cant run...BY LAW

I am not asking the 'executive branch' to impede on the Judicial branch...but the executive branch (and the FEC) should follow the law(ie constitution)...or are you saying the EB is above the law???
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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they dont....they are the FEC (federal ELECTION commission) they can say whther a person is eligible by CURRENT LAW...I am not asking them to MAKE the law..or even change the law...but at least FOLLOW it

fact is if they cant take office, then they cant run...BY LAW
Well there's your problem.

You apparently are the one who does not know what the law is.

Because no, BY LAW they can't do that.
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There you go again.

5th grade civics, wch. Separation of Powers.
oh please...stop with the insults

fact the LAW states that ONLY a 'natural born citizen" may become POTUS

therefore BY LAW if you are NOT a NBC then you cant run....unless you want the FEC to OVERRIDE the law

the FEC does not make the law (the constitoution and the judiciary does that)..by they better FOLLOW the law...and the law states...that ONLY a 'natural born citizen" may become POTUS....so why would the FEC be saying he 'can" run????? are they above the law???
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