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Old 09-29-2011, 12:38 PM
 
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Default Eliminating the middle class

Seen and read quite a bit about the decimation of the middle class lately and got to wondering why is the middle class being eliminated? and who stands to gain from its elimination?.
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Old 09-29-2011, 12:39 PM
 
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Seen and read quite a bit about the decimation of the middle class lately and got to wondering why is the middle class being eliminated? and who stands to gain from its elimination?.
Who stands to gain? The super rich, the mega-corporations, and politicians. And they're probably not mutually exclusive.
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:16 PM
 
Location: the big island...hawai'i
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Seen and read quite a bit about the decimation of the middle class lately and got to wondering why is the middle class being eliminated? and who stands to gain from its elimination?.

...re: 1917 russia...read up on it, it's quite fascinating...
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:18 PM
 
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The middle class is not being eliminated or decimated. Look around you.
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:20 PM
 
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Who stands to gain? The super rich, the mega-corporations, and politicians. And they're probably not mutually exclusive.
Most of the evil super rich, mega corporations, etc depend upon the middle class to buy the products that enable them to be evil super rich, mega corporations etc. So don't be looking for the decimation just yet.
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:31 PM
 
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Most of the evil super rich, mega corporations, etc depend upon the middle class to buy the products that enable them to be evil super rich, mega corporations etc. So don't be looking for the decimation just yet.
They're not exactly thinking long term are they? Just want to make their millions or billions right now without realizing the consequences of destroying the middle class.
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:32 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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The middle class is not being eliminated or decimated. Look around you.
Yes we are. We are seeing the slow death of the middle class as we know it. I look around and I see a lot of people losing their homes to foreclosure. I see people work two or even three jobs just to pay their bills.

On the other hand, I see the return of "The Gilded Era" (as Mark Twain put it) of 1870 returning! Servants will be plentiful and cheap! The rich - oops! excuse me! I mean "Job Creators" - will live in 50 room palaces like the Vanderbilts, Morgans, Fords, DuPonts - and pay very little or no taxes!!!

History does repeat itself.
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Seen and read quite a bit about the decimation of the middle class lately and got to wondering why is the middle class being eliminated? and who stands to gain from its elimination?.
Possible answer 1: The elite who want power
Possible answer 2: Those who want to bring down this country

What needs to be understood is that the middle class is free. They can support themselves and do not need government to support their needs. In America, this describes the overwhelming percentage of the population. The majority of people do not need government - therefore, they are free to vote based on principles, social issues, how people in government behave, etc.

But if the majority of people are poor, now there is an interest in voting for the people who will give you the most goodies - regardless of their behavior because the poor needs the goods to survive.

The reason why the free market and the middle class doesn't thrive in other countries, like Brazil, is that the leaders see it as a threat to their power - because the people can vote them out because they don't need government. So Brazil may expand and grow for awhile, but they will only go so far before government steps in to slow things down.

So for answer 1 - some may want the eternal power that comes by governing a poor population that votes mainly based on what it needs.

So for answer 2 - the less money in America, the less powerful we are. So this would be the strategy of some country like Russia to weaken us from the outside.

Just my two cents.
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island, New York
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Seen and read quite a bit about the decimation of the middle class lately and got to wondering why is the middle class being eliminated? and who stands to gain from its elimination?.
its the fascist liberal dream...only two classes, the poor serfs, getting their tiny entitlements and the rich elite liberal masters
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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Fascist liberal? Thats like saying communist conservative. Strange. So if the rich elite liberal masters want this, what do the rich elite conservative masters want?
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