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"A lot of times she'd come out and say, 'I'm a girl.' No, at first it was, 'I want to be a girl,' then it's like 'No. I am a girl.' And she'd ask if me if I [thought] she was crazy and I'd say, 'No, honey, you know, it's OK.' And in the front, you know, I'm driving going ... 'Oh my gosh, what is this?' " Danielle says.
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After many years, the family found a psychologist who had experience with gender issues. At the end of a two-month evaluation, the therapist gave them a diagnosis: gender identity disorder.
Gender identity disorder is the label most psychiatrists and psychologists give to children who believe themselves to be born into the wrong biological body. It involves a range of behaviors, but on one end of the spectrum there are children like Armand: kids who are more than effeminate boys or masculine girls who may turn out to be gay in adulthood. These are children who genuinely believe they are girls — even though they have a male body — or boys, even though they have a female body.
The doctor explained that their son would, in all likelihood, grow up to be transgender — someone who lives as a member of the opposite sex.
Robert and Danielle say that at this point the diagnosis was more of a relief than a shock. They decided almost immediately to stop trying to force their son to live as a boy. And then looked, with some anxiety, to the future. Armand was close to 11 years old.
"We knew that puberty was around the corner and we needed to start looking into ... what do we do," Robert says. "How do we help this child, you know, develop in a way that is consistent with who she is."
I've also read posts of yours about the "Anti-christ" and supposed "mathematical" Biblical prophecies predicting the "second coming" .... any day now.
Are you saying that you don't believe in Satan or the Devil? Just the "Anti-Christ"?
Ehhh.... so what's your problem with my post? What incorrect "assumptions" did I make?
I still find it hilarious when you write a mocking post comparing GID to a child believing in the boogeyman in the closet, considering what you appear to believe about an "Anti-Christ" boogeyman.
To dismiss fulfilled Bible prophecy (see Book of Daniel), I have to believe the scribes who translated the KJV Bible were able to predict the rebirth of Israel still 337 years in the future and I just don't have that much faith in chance. That doesn't mean my concept of Satan is a less than appealing cartoon character. As I said before, if you want to find pure evil, look no further than your fellow man.
Oh, am am sure you KNOW transgendered people. Hang out and have beers after work all the time. Maybe you're dating one. I don't, particularly care. But, riddle me this, did any of the have this done at eight years old? They can't reproduce, so isn't their original gender still the same? I submit, this "transformation" is merely cosmetic, then. A lie, a sham. And would it not be required to take hormones and other meds, daily, to keep the true identity in the closet, so to speak?
Pretty soon, they will want to start trying to go beyond just cosmetics. They will want to start playing with reproductive capability. Delving further and further into alterations. Then, they will start playing with altered embryos, and in utero, transformations. It won't ever have a stopping point, where things are thought to be going to far. I feel it's gone to far as it stands.
There seems to be an epidemic of people who clearly haven't read the article but think their inane comments are worth posting anyway.
The child was 11 when they started puberty blocking treatment, not 8.
The fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb.
However, since sexual differentiation of the genitals takes place in the first two months of pregnancy and sexual differentiation of the brain starts in the second half of pregnancy, these two processes can be influenced independently, which may result in extreme cases in trans-sexuality. This also means that in the event of ambiguous sex at birth, the degree of masculinization of the genitals may not reflect the degree of masculinization of the brain.
There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation.
You are right that there have certainly been times when the medical specialists got it wrong and a child was harmed- which is why doctors are so much more careful in these days of malpractice law suits.
There is also another story of parents in the 19060's who had twin sons. During circumcision, one son had his penis destroyed, so they decided to raise the boy as a girl and never told him he was born a boy. They even gave him female hormones and had his testicals surgically removed. It didn't work. The boy always thought of himself as a boy, and acted like like a boy despite what the parents tried to do to make him believe he was a girl. The child's innate gender identity was much stronger than the way he was "nurtured" by his parents. The theory of the specialist at the time was that "nurture" was far more important than "nature" and that gender identity was "learned" - although there weren't any studies to support that at the time. Frankly in that case, it was the specialist, Dr John Money, did a lot of harm to that child because his ideas where not based on evidence.
(Sigh) sometimes I wonder. I do find the way liberal skew things, sometimes so far out of kilter the original issue gets to ompletely obscured in the wonton rants.
To dismiss fulfilled Bible prophecy (see Book of Daniel), I have to believe the scribes who translated the KJV Bible were able to predict the rebirth of Israel still 337 years in the future and I just don't have that much faith in chance. That doesn't mean my concept of Satan is a less than appealing cartoon character. As I said before, if you want to find pure evil, look no further than your fellow man.
Some gray and white matter regions of the brain are sexually dimorphic. The best MRI technique for identifying subtle differences in white matter is diffusion tensor imaging (DTI). The purpose of this paper is to investigate whether white matter patterns in female to male (FtM) transsexuals before commencing cross-sex hormone treatment are more similar to that of their biological sex or to that of their gender identity.
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DTI was performed in 18 FtM transsexuals and 24 male and 19 female heterosexual controls scanned with a 3 T Trio Tim Magneton. Fractional anisotropy (FA) was performed on white matter fibers of the whole brain, which was spatially analyzed using Tract-Based Spatial Statistics.
RESULTS:
In controls, males have significantly higher FA values than females in the medial and posterior parts of the right superior longitudinal fasciculus (SLF), the forceps minor, and the corticospinal tract. Compared to control females, FtM showed higher FA values in posterior part of the right SLF, the forceps minor and corticospinal tract. Compared to control males, FtM showed only lower FA values in the corticospinal tract.
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Our results show that the white matter microstructure pattern in untreated FtM transsexuals is closer to the pattern of subjects who share their gender identity (males) than those who share their biological sex (females). Our results provide evidence for an inherent difference in the brain structure of FtM transsexuals.
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"It's the first time it has been shown that the brains of female-to-male transsexual people are masculinised," Guillamon says.
In a separate study, the team used the same technique to compare white matter in 18 male-to-female transsexual people with that in 19 males and 19 females. Surprisingly, in each transsexual person's brain the structure of the white matter in the four regions was halfway between that of the males and females (Journal of Psychiatric Research, DOI: 10.1016/j.jpsychires.2010.11.007).
"Their brains are not completely masculinised and not completely feminised, but they still feel female," says Guillamon.
I guess it's the concept of a "gender identity" I don't understand. What does it mean to "feel" male or female, if not something tied and influenced by social interaction? And how does one know that's what they're feeling if they've never felt the other way? I've never "felt" like a man or a woman outside of social experiences and what I take from them. I'm just me. I happen to have a penis, so I'm a male. I apologize if you think that's too simplistic.
It's unclear in your study as to whether "patterns" mean "amounts". So I'll comment on amounts, which could, of course, affect patterns of white matter present in the brain. Anytime adults are tested in something less than a longitudinal study, there's no way to determine if any differences found are due to nature or nurture. For example, one study found that physical activity may help preserve a brain's white matter.
So it's possible there's your correlation. We also know that aging brings on white matter changes (again, giving this a mention because "patterns" could mean one thing or the other) as well, and your study didn't mention any of the subjects' ages.
Understand that I'm not trying to stop adult transgendered/transsexuals from doing what they feel is best. But as of yet, I do not agree with any of this involving children.
Maybe this lesbian couple should have provided a male role model? A child this age really has no firm idea of what behavior they should emulate. Under these circumstances...to drug a child and mess with hormones is abuse of an innocent child. Give it twenty years and this boy will grow to hate what his "parents" did to him...He is not doing this to himself- this is being done to him.
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