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I'm of the opinion that the republican party also uses black people for votes. But instead of the democrats' strategy, they use black Americans as a scapegoat - we're welfare queens, we're AA hires, we're violent, don't worry, the GOP will keep black people in their place, vote for us, scared white suburbanites.
That's one of the problems with Cain's "black people are brainwashed into not considering conservativism" shtick. A lot of black people have already considered conservativism, and have accepted part or all of it. But they won't vote for people who openly insult them, and refuse to actually discuss anything with them, as well they should. And so, when you see the average black conservative, either on the street or in office, you'll see a (D) next to his name.
Want to change that, GOP? Dump the howling bigot, Limbaugh/Trump faction, and go into black neighborhoods and *introduce yourself* to the people there.
Excellent post!
The majority of middle class and upper class Black Americans personally lean fairly conservative. However, it should be quite evident that getting us (Black Americans) to vote for people who openly disdain and blame us for ALL of the ills of society, would/should start with a thorough enema to the racially divisive politics of the Republican powers-that-be. There is nothing inclusive about the Republican party as it exists today. Republican candidates don't even find it necessary to campaign in predominantly Black neighborhoods anywhere in the United States.
We are taught early and often that only the Democrats are our friends!
Our parents tell us, our preachers tell us, the barber shop tells us, the grandparents tell us, our teachers tell us. And if you dare call yourself a black conservative, we then pile on that person as a "sell-out"...a "TOM" or oreo.
I've seen it.
Isn't it amazing how quiet the black community has been with things as bad as they are?? Even with unemployment nearly 20 percent in the Black community, there have murmurs. But shouts and screams!!
You cannot tell me that if a GOP was sitting in that White House that black folks would not be protesting in the streets! The Democrats know they can count on us! We will accept it and go nowhere else!
Amazing that some are brainwashed, obviously at an early age, that blacks are dumber, more easily manipulated, lazy and eager to take handouts from the government instead of working for and earning a good living. I would also add that is seems that some here believe in the Socialist ideals that the government is charge of creating and supplying Jobs for the private sector. A lot of confusion going around, I would suggest that the best way to deal with it is to identify your own confusion and clear that up before telling everyone else that they are confused.
This is one thing the black community does right. They know b.s. when they see it, but it's not like Republicans hide it. They are for the wealthy and support big business. Why would the black community vote for the wealthy and big business, unless they are personally wealthy and just want to screw the rest of their community?
If all the hispanics and blacks voted in the elections I believe the Republican party would mostly be wiped out. Unfortunately they don't. A black republican is called a "sell-out" because they are one. The Republican party is to the point that many of them don't even hide their racism.
No this is the one thing black people have gotten wrong. Voting Democratic has gotten us nowere. Things have actually gotten worse for Black people over the last forty years. We have the highest umeployment rate, the most kids born out of wedlock, the highest child poverty rate, Black women abort their children a five times the rate of white women and twice the rate of Hispanic women. The second higest dropout rate after Hispanics. I could go on and on, Black people voting overwhelmingly Democrat has not gotten us anywhere.
Aww yes the hateful left out in the open. How dumb are you? This is AMerica people have the right to think how they want.
Just another lefty ******* with these comments.
So blacks should not want to be wealthy. Maybe they should just sit on the stoop and keep smoking dope and pop out soemore kids they can't pay for. Its worked out so well.
Don't you think its racists to constantly tell a group of people that they can't make it on thier own?
The above is a prime reason why black people don't want anything to do with the Republican Party, which continues to demonize us and then wonders why we can't stand them.
Blacks are hardly the first group to identify with one of the major parties. The Irish and the Italians used to be synonymous with the Democrats while Cubans vote mostly GOP. I would think there are more.
Such groupthink is probably not a great thing over the long term as it encourages and enables people taking you for granted and thus not working for you.
Whatever. Its for them to decided and those that are infuriated by it can take comfort that these things do not last forever.
You don't very much like the concept of rule of law, do you?
Rule of law is fine. What I don't like is the assumption that who I am predisposes me to being a druggie or criminal. Since many of you here and in the Repb. Party in general persist in maintaining this perception, I persist in wanting nothing to do with your kind.
Rule of law is fine. What I don't like is the assumption that who I am predisposes me to being a druggie or criminal. Since many of you here and in the Repb. Party in general persist in maintaining this perception, I persist in wanting nothing to do with your kind.
Hmmm...
I myself am not GOP- I like being Independant.
But if you feel that way, one idea might for you and others to register Republican. What better way to change an organization than to flood it with people who think differently?
From my observations, its the Democratic Party who are predisposed to think of you as nothing more than a naive, perhaps stupid child who will never be able to function independantly.
The majority of the black population is still poorer than the average American citizen, so issues that affect the lower class strongly sway their voting habits. You can take this to mean that blacks vote for hand-outs if you want, but that is something of a distortion of the real issue. Honestly, though, it can't be denied that a lot of blacks would react extremely hostilely to any attempts to eliminate welfare, since there are a LOT of blacks on welfare.
For the record, the majority of the black population is not poorer than the average American citizen. This is another misconception that "the whites" keep having regarding the blacks. All us blacks are so poor and so weary LOL! I am much more wealthy than the majority of the white people I know and I am not rich by any means. I am black and would not really care if welfare was eliminated, many of us "blacks" would not.
Also I don't care if the whites call black Americans "the black" or "those people" people or "negro" or anything else really. I have been called a N*gger B*tch before and didn't care, but I am not easily offended by names. Remember "sticks and stones.... I could care less what anyone says in this regard when it comes to emotions, but it will make me have a lesser view of that person and/or group and I will be less likely to respect that individual/person and more likely to pity them and their ignorance like I do quite a few posters here on CD.
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Originally Posted by Hadoken
It's interesting to see the distortions put forth in this thread - distortions that a glancing knowledge of US history would put to rest.
"Black people refuse to assimilate". False, in fact many black people put their lives on the line in order to demand assimilation, in the face of open rage from many white people.
"Black people riot, and that made white people move away." In fact, it's *white* people that began the overwhelming number of race riots in the US, to the point of fighting a war over the fate of black slaves. White people rioted when a black family would buy a home in their neighborhood, they would riot when a black person went to "their" school, they would riot when a black man disrespected "their" women.
"Black people want to take from the workers." This is hilarious, given the US' long, and well documented, history of draining wealth out of black communities, and bestowing it onto white communities. In fact, this was open US policy well into the 1960s, and through local governments, often through today.
And finally, there's the foolish assertion that is parroted by Herman Cain in the OP, that black people are "brainwashed" into voting for democrats. The assertion is, in and of itself, a part of the reason why black people vote for democrats. Here's a hint - you *never* win people over by insulting them. If the GOP wants black people to vote for them, they need to get rid of the racist attacks, go into actual black towns and neighborhoods, and tell the people there why they should vote for them. None of this "you're brainwashed, you're a plantation slave" nonsense, what do they plan to do about jobs? What do they plan to do about employer discrimination? What is their plan on health care? Will they fix up the streets? What will they do about bad schools?
This is the best post of this entire thread. Many of the whites deny all of the above. The whites have been the most violent group of people in this country since this country began but us blacks get the title of criminal and violent from them. The whites get more assistance money and have millions of poor people but us blacks get all the blame. Us blacks had to have a "movement" that took many people's lives at the hands of the whites who were upset because a black kid went to a school or a black man sat at a counter. I live across the street from an elementary school that was bombed in the 60s by the whites due to integration. I live in Atlanta and there weren't many incidents of violence from the whites here due to integration but this school was bombed by them none-the less.
I am not a democrat. I feel that both of the major political parties attempt to brainwash their participants. I don't agree with a lot of what the dems or reps say. I think they are equally stereotypical and racist. None is better than the other. But I will say that the republicans do take the cake when it comes to insulting black people with the "we are poor, we are thugs, we are criminals, we suck on the breast of the system, our kids are dumb, we are the (insert any other negative category leader). It is relentless and Cain is no different. Unfortunately this is why I rarely take a republican candidate on the national level seriously. I do vote for local republicans though, they are smart enough a lot of time not to do this locally, especially in my home state of Ohio. I voted more for republicans in OH than dems but mostly dems here in GA because the republicans are too "brainwashed" to use the word of the thread, for my taste. They go along with their party no matter how dumb of an idea just because it is a republican idea. Many, in the past OH republicans didn't do that, especially when it came to economic/financial issues.
But if you feel that way, one idea might for you and others to register Republican. What better way to change an organization than to flood it with people who think differently?
From my observations, its the Democratic Party who are predisposed to think of you as nothing more than a naive, perhaps stupid child who will never be able to function independantly.
But...it is your choice
Wanted to add, that I have the same observations as you of the democratic party, but I also see that republicans think that we are nothing more than a naive, stupid (no perhaps) child, who cannot function indepently and who is a criminal and the vile of society.
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