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Old 10-06-2011, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Don't be so envious of his chin.
It is the look on the face that I am talking about. Both men look like they are telling people, by the jut of their chin, that they are right whether you like it or not.
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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It is the look on the face that I am talking about. Both men look like they are telling people, by the jut of their chin, that they are right whether you like it or not.
Considering that you're into entertainers for opinion, I'm not surprised that you get the message, not from the message but from people's chin.
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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Are they shooting people in cars who are traveling to a location and were they ordered by the executive branch to do this?
This has nothing to do with it. Do you think its unconstitutional for a cop to shoot a person in the street they perceive to be a threat?

Can one of his friends help him out?
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:33 PM
 
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This has nothing to do with it. Do you think its unconstitutional for a cop to shoot a person in the street they perceive to be a threat?

Can one of his friends help him out?
So you think it is constitutional for a cop to walk up to someone on the street who may have a gun on them and just shoot them in the back of the head?

The threat needs to be imminent. We have seen no evidence the threat was imminent (and the white house refuses to release this info-- saying it is "secret"... so much for transparency). Do you see what I'm getting at? I'd be okay with it if the individual posed an imminent threat to the US and the act was done in self defense.

What is the big deal with releasing the information anyway-- why don't they just release it? Also, it makes me very uncomfortable to think this administration has a "death panel" that has a list of US citizens who it plans to assassinate.... how can something like this not bother you?
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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So you think it is constitutional for a cop to walk up to someone on the street who may have a gun on them and just shoot them in the back of the head?

The threat needs to be imminent. We have seen no evidence the threat was imminent (and the white house refuses to release this info-- saying it is "secret"... so much for transparency). Do you see what I'm getting at? I'd be okay with it if the individual posed an imminent threat to the US and the act was done in self defense.
Define imminent threat. And don't forget to explain why Awlaki, not the President of America or its military, deserves the benefit of doubt.
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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You see there is a big difference between assassination and self defense.
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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You see there is a big difference between assassination and self defense.
Yes there is. And do you believe Awlaki was innocent, and certainly not a threat to America?
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:40 PM
 
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Define imminent threat. And don't forget to explain why Awlaki, not the President of America or its military, deserves the benefit of doubt.
I'd consider it an imminent threat if he was in a car strapped to bombs headed for a US embassy. Then of course the president would be justified in sending predator drones.

Not in a car riding home to his house (or wherever he was going)
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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So you think it is constitutional for a cop to walk up to someone on the street who may have a gun on them and just shoot them in the back of the head?

The threat needs to be imminent. We have seen no evidence the threat was imminent (and the white house refuses to release this info-- saying it is "secret"... so much for transparency). Do you see what I'm getting at? I'd be okay with it if the individual posed an imminent threat to the US and the act was done in self defense.

What is the big deal with releasing the information anyway-- why don't they just release it? Also, it makes me very uncomfortable to think this administration has a "death panel" that has a list of US citizens who it plans to assassinate.
Yes or no. Those would be one the logical answers for my question. Do you think it is unconstitutional for a cop to shoot a person in the street they perceive to be a threat? Yes or no.
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:41 PM
 
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Yes there is. And do you believe Awlaki was innocent, and certainly not a threat to America?
I believe he was a threat, but that we could have handled the situation constitutionally. And this is the last I'm going to say about it.

I don't like Presidents who completely ignore the constitution. They make a mockery of our founding fathers.
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