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Old 10-06-2011, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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If you watch the video be prepared for some vile language. She has so many problems and doesn't even know that what her sign says would kick many out of college.

She is very excited about the cost of food these days and doesn't have any idea what it will probably be a year from now. She thinks that all student debts, which is what she is against, are to large banks located on Wall Street. She doesn't know that many small town banks have loaned tons of money to students because the government guarantees they will be paid.

Actually this woman is much better informed than most of those people on the streets in NYC in the protest.


Occupy Wall Streeter rails on Obama, jobs bill, and banks - YouTube!
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Old 10-06-2011, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Is there a point to your post? No, I thought not. Just meeting your assigned quota for right wing oriented hate mongering. The confused woman OTOH does have some valid points. The existence of student loans has allowed higher ed institutions to charge ever more outrageous prices for a basic higher education. In many cases tuition for just one child exceeds by a large margin the value of the family home. That's just not right. The end of student loans would not mean that kids can't go to college it would mean the necessity of restructuring college costs. Tell me you knew that. I can forgive someone on the hustle, I can't forgive egregious ignorance. Speaking of which... does anyone know how one becomes a paid spokesperson for political armies? No disrespect to my power liberal colleagues (you know who you are) but we are outgunned and outmanned on this board. Balance is sorely needed and I think some financial support would even the sides some. PM me if you have any insight. I'd especially like to hear from anyone working directly with Barack Obama.

H
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Is there a point to your post? No, I thought not. Just meeting your assigned quota for right wing oriented hate mongering. The confused woman OTOH does have some valid points. The existence of student loans has allowed higher ed institutions to charge ever more outrageous prices for a basic higher education. In many cases tuition for just one child exceeds by a large margin the value of the family home. That's just not right. The end of student loans would not mean that kids can't go to college it would mean the necessity of restructuring college costs. Tell me you knew that. I can forgive someone on the hustle, I can't forgive egregious ignorance. Speaking of which... does anyone know how one becomes a paid spokesperson for political armies? No disrespect to my power liberal colleagues (you know who you are) but we are outgunned and outmanned on this board. Balance is sorely needed and I think some financial support would even the sides some. PM me if you have any insight. I'd especially like to hear from anyone working directly with Barack Obama.

H
I was wonder what the point was also, thanks for asking, doubt your will get a clear and direct answer.
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:04 PM
 
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She's not going to support Obama in 2012. That's is the only sensible thing she said in that rant.
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Old 10-06-2011, 02:11 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Is there a point to your post? No, I thought not. Just meeting your assigned quota for right wing oriented hate mongering. The confused woman OTOH does have some valid points. The existence of student loans has allowed higher ed institutions to charge ever more outrageous prices for a basic higher education. In many cases tuition for just one child exceeds by a large margin the value of the family home. That's just not right. The end of student loans would not mean that kids can't go to college it would mean the necessity of restructuring college costs. Tell me you knew that. I can forgive someone on the hustle, I can't forgive egregious ignorance. Speaking of which... does anyone know how one becomes a paid spokesperson for political armies? No disrespect to my power liberal colleagues (you know who you are) but we are outgunned and outmanned on this board. Balance is sorely needed and I think some financial support would even the sides some. PM me if you have any insight. I'd especially like to hear from anyone working directly with Barack Obama.

H
Well..........never mind.
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:01 PM
 
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A business can rack up billions in debt, write off yachts as "business expenses," and delcare bankruptcy with no consequence on any bad choices made....but student loans cannot be discharged or be written off as a dollar for dollar deduction on taxes.

Maybe student loans don't need to be "done away with," but we can sure as heck get the private banks out of the business of same, or at least write the rules so that average people looking to improve themselves are treated at LEAST as fairly as bankers and businesses trying to enrich themselves.
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:04 PM
 
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A business can rack up billions in debt, write off yachts as "business expenses," and delcare bankruptcy with no consequence on any bad choices made....but student loans cannot be discharged or be written off as a dollar for dollar deduction on taxes.
Does Wall Street set the rules?
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:23 PM
 
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Does Wall Street set the rules?
Yes. Actually, they kinda do. Bankers (AKA, Wall Street) lobby Congress. They pretty much own Congress.

Are you suggesting that only Congress should be protested against, and that bankers and financiers who shovel millions to Congressional puppets should get a pass? Do you think Congress thought up all by themselves that Student Loans should be non-dischargable debt?
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:47 PM
 
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Back in the olden days, people saved money for their kids to go to school. Now if you do that, they get no financial aid. The system is rigged. I could go out and buy a $50,000 car. Whoever has parents fill out the forms will not penalize me. But if I save for my kid to go to school instead of taking vacations, buying clothes and cars, they won't give grants, etc. It is crazy.
When DH was in school, we were 3, living on a meager part time income. We could still live, pay tuition and pay for the doctor and medicine if the baby got sick. You can't do that anymore. Something is wrong.
I don't think college should be free. State schools should not be $40,000 a year either. In the 70's, schools were built so that everybody was within commuting distant to a decent school and could afford tuition. No so anymore.
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:56 PM
 
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Yes. Actually, they kinda do. Bankers (AKA, Wall Street) lobby Congress. They pretty much own Congress.

Are you suggesting that only Congress should be protested against, and that bankers and financiers who shovel millions to Congressional puppets should get a pass? Do you think Congress thought up all by themselves that Student Loans should be non-dischargable debt?
Obama Signs Overhaul of Student Loan Program

Why don't they protest him?
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