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Old 10-07-2011, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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Thanks for highlighting your Credibility for all to see, care to retract your statement? Read and learn some Truth.

Military career of John Kerry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't believe everything you read on Wikopedia or the internet. That is how World War One got started.

An official Navy document on Senator Kerry's campaign Web site listed as Mr. Kerry's "Honorable Discharge from the Reserves" opens a door on a well kept secret about his military service.
The document is a form cover letter in the name of the Carter administration's secretary of the Navy, W. Graham Claytor. It describes Mr. Kerry's discharge as being subsequent to the review of "a board of officers." This in itself is unusual. There is nothing about an ordinary honorable discharge action in the Navy that requires a review by a board of officers.
According to the secretary of the Navy's document, the "authority of reference" this board was using in considering Mr. Kerry's record was "Title 10, U.S. Code Section 1162 and 1163." This section refers to the grounds for involuntary separation from the service. What was being reviewed, then, was Mr. Kerry's involuntary separation from the service. And it couldn't have been an honorable discharge, or there would have been no point in any review at all. The review was likely held to improve Mr. Kerry's status of discharge from a less than honorable discharge to an honorable discharge.

There is one odd coincidence that gives some weight to the possibility that Mr. Kerry was dishonorably discharged. Mr. Kerry has claimed that he lost his medal certificates and that is why he asked that they be reissued. But when a dishonorable discharge is issued, all pay benefits, and allowances, and all medals and honors are revoked as well. And five months after Mr. Kerry joined the U.S. Senate in 1985, on one single day, June 4, all of Mr. Kerry's medals were reissued.

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Old 10-07-2011, 11:35 AM
 
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Lawrence O’Donnell vs. Herman Cain « Hot Air



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by Jazz Shaw

You’d think, given all of the attention being paid to this race and the national implications involved, that O’Donnell might dive into some substantive questions on topics which Cain has addressed. Perhaps he could dig into the 9-9-9 plan and how the proposed new tax rates would affect the deficit? Or he might inquire about what Cain plans to do about Afghanistan, given all of the dodgy news coming out of Pakistan recently? If so, you’d be sadly disappointed. O’Donnell launches into some serious condescending sniping and badgering which seems geared more towards attempting to make Cain look foolish than explore his positions. GOPROUD executive Chris Barron got more than an earful and didn’t care for what he heard.
Honestly, I have watched few things that have made my blood boil as much as Lawrence O’Donnell’s “interview” of Herman Cain last night. I use the phrase “interview” in the loosest possible sense of the word because it wasn’t really an interview. It was a carefully orchestrated smear campaign by O’Donnell.
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Lawrence O’Donnell would know very little about Herman Cain’s life. Unlike O’Donnell, Cain didn’t grow up with a silver spoon in his mouth. “Herman Cain grew up in Atlanta, Georgia with loving parents and little else. His father worked three jobs—as a janitor, a barber and a chauffeur—and his mother was a domestic worker. Even though these jobs required hard work and little glamour, his parents knew this life was better than the dirt farms upon which they grew up. They also knew that this hard work was the key to achieving their American Dreams.”
Lawrence O’Donnell would also know very little about service to this country. While Mr. O’Donnell never served in the military himself, he has no problem questioning the service of Herman Cain.
As usual, LO made himself look like a fool and a jerk. He wasnt interested in learning more about Cain or asking him "tough" questions, he was trying to tear down Cain and make him look foolish. Unfortunately for L.O., the only one who came out like a fool was himself.
Who the hell is he to try and make Cain out to be not black enough? Who the hell is he to question ANYONE'S service?
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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The distinctive difference in ideology held by politicians the likes of Cain, West, Keyes, etc... from the Marxist Progresssivism spouted by the like of the average CBC member. The CBC hasn't exactly opened its arms to West since he joined have they?

Conservatives point out these ideological differences constantly yet the far left only plays the race card. They are unable to detatch themselves from identity politics.
Huh?

No one with a lick of sense will 'open their arms' to Allen West. He is a war criminal.

So how to change the basic ideology of the CBC?
Are Republicans recruiting young people of color at the local level?

Keep in mind that we now have the highest percentage of college-educated minority voters in the history of this country.

What are the republicans doing to make their message more attractive to these educated young people of color?

The proof is always in the pudding, as they say.

And, do you really believe that Mr. Cain is helping the cause by labeling some large percentage of black voters as 'brainwashed' 'plantation' thinkers?
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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If O'Donnell had any real credibility he would be working for a real network. MSNBC is the equivalent of sitting at the "card table" during Thanksgiving dinner.
You wouldn't understand real news. Thats why you watch FOX, you prefer propaganda.
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Have you been to Iraq or Afghanistan?
I didn't know meson was running for office.
Why didn't Cain answer. I don't care what the answer is, I would expect for him to provide one, though.
Don't you?
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I can't speak for other conservatives, but it's the double-standard that I don't like. I'd like to see ANY interview with Obama that comes close to this.
Let's compare:
O'Donnell asking tough questions on MSNBC, while Bill O'Reilly gets to perform the same routine before the Super Bowl. Wonder which get more viewers?

Hope that clears things up for you.


NFL on FOX: O'Reilly interviews Obama - YouTube
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Don't believe everything you read on Wikopedia or the internet. That is how World War One got started.
In other words you are not interested in Facts. Clue: Wikopedia did not exist, not mention the internet, in 1914. Isolationism got us into WW1, read more, post less.
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Lawrence O’Donnell vs. Herman Cain « Hot Air

As usual, LO made himself look like a fool and a jerk. He wasnt interested in learning more about Cain or asking him "tough" questions, he was trying to tear down Cain and make him look foolish. Unfortunately for L.O., the only one who came out like a fool was himself.
Who the hell is he to try and make Cain out to be not black enough? Who the hell is he to question ANYONE'S service?
That's the narrative that is scripted for you. People on the "Left", however, are able to think for themselves and independently rate the effectiveness of interviewers and those being interviewed.
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I watched the show, best part for me was when Lawrence asked Cain why he didn't sign up
to go to Vietnam and then Cain changed the subject....obviously he chickened out.

The right has a strong fascination with chickenhawks.

BushII
Cheney
Rove
McConnell
Boehner
O'Reilly
Limbaugh
Beck
Weiner-Savage
Nugent
Romney


buck, buck, buckaw...

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Old 10-07-2011, 11:44 AM
 
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Let's compare:
O'Donnell asking tough questions on MSNBC, while Bill O'Reilly gets to perform the same routine before the Super Bowl. Wonder which get more viewers?

Hope that clears things up for you.

Um, what exactly are you trying to show? OReilly was asking about issues people cared about. He also was respectful. LO did neither. People dont give a damn whether the liberals think Herman Cain is "black" enough for you.
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