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Old 10-07-2011, 10:02 AM
 
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I hear this same line all the time....

"regulations....[insert word here like stiffle, kill, stop, etc]....[insert second word/phrase here like economic growth, new business, innovation, etc]"

now there are 'panels', 'study groups', etc wasting lots of money trying to figure out which regulations are problematic and which ones are actual benefits to society

(Note...if you think the latter is a falsehood and no regs benefit society, you can stop reading at this point if you like)

so which regs specifically are bad regs?

for example....export laws are overseen by multiple agencies for many products including weapons systems and nuclear technology. trying to develop these technologies and then selling them overseas requires approval from the DOC, DOS, DOD, DHS. they should be streamlined as the process can take up to 10+ years for approval. in the mean time, europe and asia have entered and dominated the market.

a non-example....just get rid of the CWA, CAA, ESA, etc (btw all passed by Nixon, a pretty good prez ATC)

question is how do we fix the system we have vs scrapping the whole thing and starting over
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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We obviously need some regulations and laws, they form the framework from which our capitalist system operate within. But we have ten of thousands of regulations, and they are chocking our economy and destroying job creation and incentives to do business.

We need to do a top to bottom revamp of our regulations, and delete a lot of them.

House Committee Hears RRP Testimony

"EPA eventually revoked its opt-out rule, requiring all home renovations in pre-1978 homes to follow lead-safe practices, thus increasing the cost of renovations for homeowners that had no at-risk individuals.

Such inflexible standards have the effect of driving down demand for renovation services. Or worse, homeowners could seek to have renovations performed by unlicensed, underground contractors, which increases the safety risk to everyone"


COST OF STATE REGULATIONS ON CALIFORNIA SMALL BUSINESSES STUDY (http://www.sba.ca.gov/Cost%20of%20Regulation%20Study%20-%20Final.pdf - broken link)


The study finds that the total cost of regulation to
the State of California is $492.994 billion which is almost five times the State’s general
fund budget, and almost a third of the State’s gross product. The cost of regulation
results in an employment loss of 3.8 million jobs which is a tenth of the State’s
population.



The Cancer of Government Regulation - Reason Magazine

"Compare New York City, where a license to own and operate a taxi is $603,000, to Washington, D.C.," George Mason University economist Walter Williams told me. "There are not many black-owned taxis in New York City. But in Washington, most are owned by blacks." Why? Because in Washington, "it takes $200 to get a license to own and operate one taxi. That makes the difference."

Regulation hurts the people the politicians claim to help.
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:43 AM
 
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Some regulations are good... some are bad... while the regulators regulate... who is regulating the regulators... it don't matter if you are EPA, FDA, Department of Education, Department of Labor... you all find jobs in the private sector that you "somehow" developed a relationship while you were regulating... it means u r all corrupt bastards...
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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Some regulations are good... some are bad... while the regulators regulate... who is regulating the regulators... it don't matter if you are EPA, FDA, Department of Education, Department of Labor... you all find jobs in the private sector that you "somehow" developed a relationship while you were regulating... it means u r all corrupt bastards...
therein lies a different conundrum...the idea that a regulator actually knows the 'agency' they just left well enough to benefit a private sector company on how to comply and/or beat the regulations.

your experience as a regulator only lasts as long as (1) your actual expertise in the regulations is 'actual' and pertinent, and (2) until new regulations come about...

but we both digress.

how about some examples?
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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question is how do we fix the system we have vs scrapping the whole thing and starting over
People.

Objective people that work within the system and recognize government's true role in this country.

People elected to government positions who don't cheat, who don't take bribes, and who don't break rules or make rules to line their own pockets.

Morality matters.
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Old 10-08-2011, 11:05 AM
 
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People.

Objective people that work within the system and recognize government's true role in this country.

People elected to government positions who don't cheat, who don't take bribes, and who don't break rules or make rules to line their own pockets.

Morality matters.
Good idea. Might be hard to put in place but still a good idea.

what's overall funny about this thread is i started...read any of these othe 'politics & controversy' threads and inevitably someone will complain about regulations.

and yet, ask them to provide some examples and where are all those complainers?

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