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Old 10-08-2011, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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''By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.''

''It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge.''

''It is not truth that matters, but victory.''

''All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.''


''Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.''

Adolf Hitler
Uh oh. Obama using rhetorical tactics the same as hitler will get you in trouble, don't you know?

Can't be pointing out the similarities.
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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The teacher himself says he hasn't lost his job and has not met Obama and you still refuse to believe that Obama could have lied to get support for his jobs bill.

The propaganda machine is winning folks.
Did Robert receive pink slips? Yes he did. Is that what he said?

In the past, most (both people and the media), accepted the generality of a elected officials knowing a persons story and having them present as meeting them, and didn't make anything of it. But if you want to spend the time examining every word every one says, just to make a point, go right ahead. I'd rather look for what the message is/was. We are loosing good teachers.

(for a example, when I go to a political candidate press conference, I meet with the candidate. did he speak to me privately. no. But it was still a meeting between me & him, and everyone else who was there. And all those who were their will say they met with the candidate).

I would defend the usage of the words, no matter who was in the white house.

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Old 10-08-2011, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Did Robert receive pink slips? Yes he did. Is that what he said?

In the past, most (both people and the media), accepted the generality of a elected officials knowing a persons story and having them present as meeting them, and didn't make anything of it. But if you want to spend the time examining every word every one says, just to make a point, go right ahead. I'd rather look for what the message is/was. We are loosing good teachers.
So you believe "the spirit of the message" even though it's not based on facts ?

But the administrators don't have to worry. Better to complain to your school board that teachers are more important than administrators.

What good is an "administrator of curriculum instruction" if you have no one to teach it ?
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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IIRC, Reagan told a few of those "whoppers", too. But he is a saint, committed no wrongs.
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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IIRC, Reagan told a few of those "whoppers", too. But he is a saint, committed no wrongs.
Try and stay on topic - this thread is about one of obama's many lies.

Go ahead, start a thread on Reagan's "whoppers".
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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So you believe "the spirit of the message" even though it's not based on facts ?

What facts are missing.

Is he a teacher? Yes
Did he receive a pink slip. Yes
Was he at a meeting that the president was at. Yes


As far a school administrators, most public school districts and charter schools are over administrated.(And many of the administrators and too many school boards are more about playing politics then fixing schools).
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:36 AM
 
Location: right here
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IIRC, Reagan told a few of those "whoppers", too. But he is a saint, committed no wrongs.

At least the economy was better -it was 20 years ago why don't we live in the present shall we???
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:40 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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What facts are missing.

Is he a teacher? Yes
Did he receive a pink slip. Yes
Was he at a meeting that the president was at. Yes

In that same vein:

I am a coach, so I am a teacher of baseball.
I was fired once.
I have watched a meeting, on TV, while the president was talking.

Is he (me) a teacher? Yes
Did he (I) recieve a pink slip? Yes
Was he (I) at a meeting that the president was at. Yes

Wow, that works. This is fun.
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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At least the economy was better -it was 20 years ago why don't we live in the present shall we???
What a deflection!

I did start a new thread.
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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In that same vein:

I am a coach, so I am a teacher of baseball.
I was fired once.
I have watched a meeting, on TV, while the president was talking.

Is he (me) a teacher? Yes
Did he (I) recieve a pink slip? Yes
Was he (I) at a meeting that the president was at. Yes

Wow, that works. This is fun.
I'd give you a pass on #1, since teaching requires documented qualifications before you can teach, and being a coach at many levels doesn't.
For you, I would say no on item #3. Since the opportunity of 2 way communication was not there.
(You can shout at the TV all you want, but nobody else will blink a eye over it)
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