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Old 10-07-2011, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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That said, firearms and any mind altering substances, DO NOT MIX!
This.

While I'm all for legalizing all victimless drugs (which includes pot), you don't want a pothead with a gun.
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Last I looked Marijuana (not matter its form) is illegal.

BTW, I'm all for legalizing Marijuana, if its done in a controlled manner, like any other prescription drug out there.
Marijuana for "personal use" has been legal in Alaska since 1974, and the vast majority of Alaskans are very well armed.

I oppose drug legalization. Decriminalization is fine, but not legalization. We already made that mistake with alcohol and tobacco. One would think that we would learn from those mistakes.
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:36 PM
 
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Marijuana for "personal use" has been legal in Alaska since 1974, and the vast majority of Alaskans are very well armed.

I oppose drug legalization. Decriminalization is fine, but not legalization.

We already made that mistake with alcohol and tobacco.
One would think that we would learn from those mistakes.
I don't understand the latter comments (in bold). Made what mistake? Are you implying that alcohol and tobacco were ever legalized? Obviously, they weren't, as they are both subject to very strict regulations (including criminal sanctions). The repeal of Prohibition eventually put alcohol into the (somewhat misnamed) "decriminalized" regime (which is a misnomer to some extent anyway, since some decriminalization may still have criminal penalties associated with it... it simply decriminalized certain conduct associated with the broader issue).

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Old 10-07-2011, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
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Well, if ya wanna get literal, look at the bolded word. Only states can enact those regulations, not the federal government.
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State = United States of America (funny how the language of our fore fathers can confuse some people).
In "the language of our fore fathers," "regulated" meant "maintained," as in kept in working order. It didn't mean what "enacting regulations upon" as you're implying.

Yes, it is funny how the language of our forefathers can confuse some people. You are apparently one of them...
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:43 PM
 
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Which point?

People have been drinking for a LOOOONG time...
History of alcoholic beverages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


THC stays in the system for a long time and has negative side effects...
Tetrahydrocannabinol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The whole statement. Have you ever smoked before? It's not alcohol. I can smoke weed for days, stop one day, be fine the next morning like nothing happened, and teach a class. You cannot OD on the stuff. Alcohol on the other hand can kill you and if it doesn't, you'll feel like absolutely hell after drinking too much.

Drugs of any kind with a gun are a big mistake, but saying that alcohol is better for humans because they have been consuming it for thousands of years is absolutely idiotic.
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:48 PM
 
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........ I can smoke weed for days, stop one day, be fine the next morning like nothing happened, and teach a class. .....
Yep, go figure the liberal potheads and druggies are the ones "teaching" our kids.
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:50 PM
 
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Yep, go figure the liberal potheads and druggies are the ones "teaching" our kids.
I said I can. I wouldn't dare risk my career for a high. The laws are strict here and it just isn't worth it.
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Old 10-07-2011, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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I said I can. I wouldn't dare risk my career for a high. The laws are strict here and it just isn't worth it.
Yet you can "smoke for weeks" and then go be a professor. You must be smoking the good stuff.
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Undisclosed Bunker
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Am I the only one who thinks recreational drug users shouldn't have guns?


"The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about."

What would you call alcohol?

The only thing a pot smoker is going to kill is a box of captain crunch!

If you have an example of someone who was shot dead from a crazed pot smoker please share with us.

Crickets....
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Old 10-07-2011, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I don't understand the latter comments (in bold). Made what mistake? Are you implying that alcohol and tobacco were ever legalized? Obviously, they weren't, as they are both subject to very strict regulations (including criminal sanctions). The repeal of Prohibition eventually put alcohol into the (somewhat misnamed) "decriminalized" regime (which is a misnomer to some extent anyway, since some decriminalization may still have criminal penalties associated with it... it simply decriminalized certain conduct associated with the broader issue).
Yes, alcohol and tobacco were legalized. Why do you think the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms exists? Legalization means new laws are created to regulate and heavily tax whatever product they are legalizing. Alcohol has been legalized, regulated, and taxed since 1792. It was the very first tax Congress ever enacted.

Decriminalization is the removal of ALL criminal penalties. not just some penalties, or a lessening of the crime. All criminal penalties must be repealed, or it is not decriminalization.

Legalization = The creation of new laws and regulations.
Decriminalization = The repeal of existing laws and regulations.
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