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Old 10-15-2011, 10:09 PM
 
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This discussion has lost its way, as have those who feel no compassion for the protesters, lumping them together and assuming the most radical among them represent the entire crowd. It's easy to forget how rich and powerful these corporations are, these kids have achieved something amazing already.
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Old 10-15-2011, 10:44 PM
 
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This discussion has lost its way, as have those who feel no compassion for the protesters, lumping them together and assuming the most radical among them represent the entire crowd. It's easy to forget how rich and powerful these corporations are, these kids have achieved something amazing already.
Amazing? Not really...they're mad because corporations aren't hiring them now...again, cannot understand why they're not going after the current administration. It's not the most radical among them, more the mentally unstable among them. I initially supported this movement until I encountered the ''occupations''. Tonight in Philly, there was a really pretentious ''teach-in'' going on; lots of philosophy and talk of Thoreau, very pretentious...intellectualizing about what the working class needs etc...the whole thing is pretentious and arrogant. Another guy suggested that instead of voting, representatives should be chosen randomly by socical security numbers with their jobs being guaranteed when their service is over...what is this a space colony or a condominum board meeting? I want the park in Philly cleared; not going to pay taxes for this nonsense...go out to the main line and pull this crap; they'll be closer to home anyway.
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Old 10-15-2011, 10:46 PM
 
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This discussion has lost its way, as have those who feel no compassion for the protesters, lumping them together and assuming the most radical among them represent the entire crowd. It's easy to forget how rich and powerful these corporations are, these kids have achieved something amazing already.
What is the entire crowd, other than the most radical, representing?
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Old 10-16-2011, 12:37 PM
 
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Wow, some of you people are in no place to discuss any of this. Truly clueless and a little frightening. What the hell does race have to do with any of this? We are all Americans and America has the worst income disparity in its entire history right now and things continue to decline. There will be no middle class in 20 years if things aren't changed. At that point there will no longer be protests but riots. We are concerned about our future and our children's future and have every right to be. As they say, If you are not outraged, you aren't paying attention.



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Old 10-16-2011, 01:22 PM
 
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I concur, this nation's citizens have every right to be upset with business leaders and political leaders alike. Selling out American interests to China when there is no reciprocity, when the Chinese flagrantly steal American intellectual property and then manipulate their currency, this has nothing to do with corporate neutrality. This is corrupt leadership which needs to be confronted, and I am extremely glad for the people who are willing to take to the streets to express their discontent.

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Wow, some of you people have no place to discuss any of this. Truly clueless and a little frightening. What the hell does race have to do with any of this? We are all Americans and America has the worst income disparity in its entire history right now and things continue to decline. There will be no middle class in 20 years if things aren't changed. At that point there will no longer be protests but riots. We are concerned about our future and our children's future and have every right to be. As they say, If you are not outraged, you aren't paying attention.



Closing The Hedge Fund Manager Tax Loophole Would Raise $4 Billion Annually From The 25 Richest Managers | ThinkProgress



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/op...stof.html?_r=1



Report: 25 Percent Of Millionaires Pay Lower Taxes Than 10.4 Million Middle-Class Americans | ThinkProgress

Alan Grayson: The Best 2 Minutes On Why We Should All #OccupyWallStreet | MoveOn.Org

This Powerful Clip Is Exactly Why We Support #OccupyWallStreet | MoveOn.Org
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Old 10-16-2011, 01:37 PM
 
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Amazing? Not really...they're mad because corporations aren't hiring them now...again, cannot understand why they're not going after the current administration. .
We are not going against the current administration because we are going against the entire corporately intertwined two-party system. It has proven to fail time and time again. The economic crash began with Reagonomics and deregulation in the late 80's and continued to worsen to where we are today. And please stop with your generalizations-I am a recent college graduate that has student loans that I pay every month, a full time job with benefits, I own my own home and I am still in agreement with the fundamentals of the protest.

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Old 10-16-2011, 02:50 PM
 
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We are not going against the current administration because we are going against the entire corporately intertwined two-party system. It has proven to fail time and time again. The economic crash began with Reagonomics and deregulation in the late 80's and continued to worsen to where we are today. And please stop with your generalizations-I am a recent college graduate that has student loans that I pay every month, a full time job with benefits, I own my own home and I am still in agreement with the fundamentals of the protest.
But your not at the protest...go to one and you will hear all kinds of off-the-wall talk from total whack-a-doodle...I supported it until I stopped by at the NYC and Philly ones.
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Old 10-16-2011, 02:54 PM
 
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We are not going against the current administration because we are going against the entire corporately intertwined two-party system. It has proven to fail time and time again. The economic crash began with Reagonomics and deregulation in the late 80's and continued to worsen to where we are today. And please stop with your generalizations-I am a recent college graduate that has student loans that I pay every month, a full time job with benefits, I own my own home and I am still in agreement with the fundamentals of the protest.
They're not going against the current administration because the HOPE of '08 has become the NOPE '12 and he's a democratic black man...these ''ocupations'' you'll hear all about slavery, how blacks do what they do because of oppression etc...from white kids from middle to upper middle class backgrounds...
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Old 10-16-2011, 02:55 PM
 
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I concur, this nation's citizens have every right to be upset with business leaders and political leaders alike. Selling out American interests to China when there is no reciprocity, when the Chinese flagrantly steal American intellectual property and then manipulate their currency, this has nothing to do with corporate neutrality. This is corrupt leadership which needs to be confronted, and I am extremely glad for the people who are willing to take to the streets to express their discontent.
Pressure Obama and Congress to stop corporations from doing this...
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Old 10-16-2011, 02:59 PM
 
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Wow, some of you people are in no place to discuss any of this. Truly clueless and a little frightening. What the hell does race have to do with any of this? We are all Americans and America has the worst income disparity in its entire history right now and things continue to decline. There will be no middle class in 20 years if things aren't changed. At that point there will no longer be protests but riots. We are concerned about our future and our children's future and have every right to be. As they say, If you are not outraged, you aren't paying attention.



Closing The Hedge Fund Manager Tax Loophole Would Raise $4 Billion Annually From The 25 Richest Managers | ThinkProgress



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/op...stof.html?_r=1



Report: 25 Percent Of Millionaires Pay Lower Taxes Than 10.4 Million Middle-Class Americans | ThinkProgress

Alan Grayson: The Best 2 Minutes On Why We Should All #OccupyWallStreet | MoveOn.Org

This Powerful Clip Is Exactly Why We Support #OccupyWallStreet | MoveOn.Org
Believe me, I said the same thing at the Philly protest when a contingent of blacks separated themselves and were voting on whether or not to let white people into their section/forum...of course I pointed out that something like this can't be voted on in a public space...kicked out? They were actually going to exclude white people from their section of the park....go back to West or North Philly and take these white kids with you. Black people brought race into it, who else do think did or would?
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