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Old 10-18-2011, 01:57 PM
 
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They moved into my neighborhood...
I am real close by and can either walk or bike through there within a coupe of minutes...
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:04 PM
 
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If the protesters in Philadelphia are just another homeless camp then they should be dispersed. If the conditions are unsafe for children then I hope the police take notice and arrest the kid. I thought Philadelphia implemented a curfew. It is quite clear that the Wall Street protesters are the ones in the media's lens and not so much protesters in other cities unless arrests occur. This thread has really acted as a political litmus test, I think it is regrettable that it has come to resemble the comment section on foxnews.com, what is it with conservatives being full of hate and entertaining violent fantasies? I hope you are not serious about the Flash Mobs, it is in very poor taste.
It is turning into a homeless camp of sorts...Flash Mob comment: a joke!! If you're referring to me as being a conservative, then maybe because, as a taxpayer, I don't want to be paying for this ''protest'' that is devolving into a homeless shelter (this plaza area is due for reconstruction on November 15) I am. What's going to happen when the park has to be cleared? Are the police going to be attacked by the protesters and the liberal media (MSNBC)? Do you really think the police can go in and arrest anyone in this mob without an incident? Police cannot enter this area...welcome to the People's Republic of Philadelphia.
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:52 PM
 
Location: NYC
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So what if homeless people are taking advantage of the situation? That isn't just in Philly, that is in many cities where the Occupy movement is happening. You aren't footing the bill for the food they have, so why can't the homeless enjoy it as well.

I mean I agree, I do think it's out of control and I think it's also detrimental to the everyday life of other people in the city.

And I don't like that they're making banks into a sort of picket line situation.

And I really really don't like that they're calling for students to walk out of their classes.

But I think it's great that the homeless are benefiting from this.
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Old 10-21-2011, 01:07 PM
 
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I'm no extremist, but I believe this movement is clearly doing the right thing. It is messed up the way corporate interests have bought our democracy and have been able to $persuade$ politicians into making decisions that help them but hurt the majority of people.

I don't agree with all the sidebar causes being championed at these protests necessarily, but I think anyone with a working brain should be able to see our system is messed up - and it's not about "government spending", it's about corporate interests completely taking over our government - including Bush and Obama.

By the way, I'm not anti-business or anti-capitalism at all. I'm anti- allowing major corporations to make all the big decisions for their own narrow self-interest. That's not a free democracy at all - it's a system that is rigged for a narrow segment of the population to succeed while the majority flounders (Note the disappearance of the middle class over the last couple of decades as proof).

So, yeah, I support their presence and their general message. I hope they can become more organized and make their points in a way that doesn't negatively affect other people's lives, but at this point I'm all behind them.
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Old 10-21-2011, 01:10 PM
 
Location: DC
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i work right next to the occupy DC crowd. it's disgusting. they're ruining a perfectly nice park
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Old 10-21-2011, 01:35 PM
 
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This thread has taken on a political slant, which considering the topic isn't a big surprise. It's being moved to the Politics forum.
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Old 10-21-2011, 06:09 PM
 
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So what if homeless people are taking advantage of the situation? That isn't just in Philly, that is in many cities where the Occupy movement is happening. You aren't footing the bill for the food they have, so why can't the homeless enjoy it as well.

I mean I agree, I do think it's out of control and I think it's also detrimental to the everyday life of other people in the city.

And I don't like that they're making banks into a sort of picket line situation.

And I really really don't like that they're calling for students to walk out of their classes.

But I think it's great that the homeless are benefiting from this.
It was a homeless park before the occupiers...and I am footing the bill for the police overtime however. Also, many mentally unstable people are in the mix there and I know, first hand, that there have been thefts and at least one sexual assault in Philly. A teenager was raped at the Cleveland occupation...all bad things; also, the cities will be held responsible if one of these white rich-kids gets hurt or killed at one of these occupations. The Philly park is due for reconstruction on November 15...should be interesting.
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Old 10-21-2011, 06:10 PM
 
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So what if homeless people are taking advantage of the situation? That isn't just in Philly, that is in many cities where the Occupy movement is happening. You aren't footing the bill for the food they have, so why can't the homeless enjoy it as well.

I mean I agree, I do think it's out of control and I think it's also detrimental to the everyday life of other people in the city.

And I don't like that they're making banks into a sort of picket line situation.

And I really really don't like that they're calling for students to walk out of their classes.

But I think it's great that the homeless are benefiting from this.
There are plenty of social services available to the homeless in many cities already...
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Old 10-21-2011, 06:32 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I disagree.

I don't think the city should be held responsible for anything that happens to the people there (unless of course it is inflicted the city), but if there are already people there and the food is being donated and the shelter is being donated and the environment is generally friendly, then homeless people should be allowed to join in on that.

You may think there are a lot of services to help the homeless, but there isn't, or they aren't offering the kind of help that the homeless really need.
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Old 10-21-2011, 06:44 PM
 
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I disagree.

I don't think the city should be held responsible for anything that happens to the people there (unless of course it is inflicted the city), but if there are already people there and the food is being donated and the shelter is being donated and the environment is generally friendly, then homeless people should be allowed to join in on that.

You may think there are a lot of services to help the homeless, but there isn't, or they aren't offering the kind of help that the homeless really need.
The city shouldn't be held responsible but will be once one of these white kids gets hurt etc...daddy will get a lawyer on the city by the next day. Let the homeless in, no problem, and let the protesters deal with them...I don't think these kids know what they're dealing with regarding some of the homeless.

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