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Old 10-14-2011, 08:43 PM
 
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But NYC has occupy history, I like historical cities.
I think NYC also benefits from having the most walkable scene.
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Old 10-14-2011, 08:44 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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I'm only partly serious, but I think they are relatively weak, and I do think the other countries I mention know how to do full scale protests better. I mean if this thing was serious it would be over in less than a week. What's the hanging around for? Do something.

The difference is that those countries don't have 50 different states with radically different populations, politics, beliefs, etc... if something's going to change, the will to change has to come from all of them, which we all know won't happen. Real change in America has to be made on a political level, which won't happen either as politics inches further into bed with business. Basically we need more politicians with balls, but politicians with balls don't get corporate support, which in this day and age means they get NO support. It wouldn't matter if we cleaned house either... we wouldn't be cleaning the corporations out, they'd just offer money to the next crop. Businesses are infringing on our democracy in a way that nothing else has... the people who need to be "occupying wall street" are the congressmen, senators, representatives, etc. if they actually care about the American Democracy. I won't hold my breath.
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Old 10-14-2011, 08:45 PM
 
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I think NYC also benefits from having the most walkable scene.

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Old 10-15-2011, 12:29 AM
 
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Looks like they're trying to get feisty in Chicago.

There's a planned protest that's starting in about 5 minutes with 5 groups of marchers starting in various areas around downtown. They're hoping to get 7,000+ people, and will converge at rush hour on Michigan Ave and attempt to block traffic downtown.

They're trying to crash the Mortgage Banker’s Association Annual Convention and Expo and the Futures and Options Expo taking place right now.
Why aren't they marching on DC? Blocking traffic is so lame and often times can cost some to die-back in 2003 more than one ambulance was stuck in traffic for the Iraq traffic block.
Crying about banks that got ''bailed-out" when most of them have had their lives ''bailed-out'' with student loans to get a college degree; only difference is the banks paid the loans back while these children of the suburbs don't want to..
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Old 10-15-2011, 01:27 AM
 
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I don't think a lot of people have been to more than one, really. Like today there were some people at Occupy Philadelphia who said they had come from Occupy Wall Street, but New York and Philly are so close that you probably won't see a lot of that. Obviously New York is the largest, but if Occupy Portland is almost as big as Occupy Wall Street, it's definitely the most vibrant (besides NYC?).
Hasn't Portland always been ''occupied"; what a stretch that Portland has a large occupation crowd. For a place that claims to stress individuality, the look and lifestyle sure is uniform.
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Old 10-15-2011, 01:36 AM
 
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Problem is theres not much of an agenda, except; "things suck for us", "masters degree and Im living in my parents basement"...... "wheres my stuff".... "College?? I didnt think I was actually going to have to pay for that!"
Thank you..."you mean everything's not going to handed to me anymore?"..."I might have to work and make ends meet on my own" or ''I thought a 60k+ job was a given with my gender studies degree"...and the silence at this ''protest'' about the current administration is deafening... "what about the $563 million Solyerian (sic) bailout?
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Old 10-15-2011, 01:56 AM
 
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Why aren't they marching on DC? Blocking traffic is so lame and often times can cost some to die-back in 2003 more than one ambulance was stuck in traffic for the Iraq traffic block.
Crying about banks that got ''bailed-out" when most of them have had their lives ''bailed-out'' with student loans to get a college degree; only difference is the banks paid the loans back while these children of the suburbs don't want to..
It is odd that it looks like largely middle-class people complaining about the life of the poor. I mean it's nice they care in a way, but too often they do come out a tad clueless.

Maybe there are some actual poor among them and the real poor people are just less photogenic so ignored by reporters. I'm traditionally a bit on the Right, but there are at least kids who are poor due to no fault of their own. And there are veterans who have trouble finding work or regular families that got ripped off by events beyond their control. Not sure what you do on that though.
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Old 10-15-2011, 04:36 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Come on, the Federal Govt. pays $1.2 million in interest on its debt every single day. The Solyndra money therefor equals 11 hours of interest on our debt. You're really going to complain about that? Try looking at Iraq and the Bush tax cuts to see where billions upon billions of dollars have been wasted. I hope they take Rupert Murdoch right out of his home and they tar and feather the man (perhaps a modern version using Elmers Glue and fake feathers). Mob justice.

Just drove by the 'Occupy Philly" camp & it's huge. For once I think the plutocrats have a real problem om their hands.

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Thank you..."you mean everything's not going to handed to me anymore?"..."I might have to work and make ends meet on my own" or ''I thought a 60k+ job was a given with my gender studies degree"...and the silence at this ''protest'' about the current administration is deafening... "what about the $563 million Solyerian (sic) bailout?

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Old 10-15-2011, 07:36 AM
 
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Why aren't they marching on DC? Blocking traffic is so lame and often times can cost some to die-back in 2003 more than one ambulance was stuck in traffic for the Iraq traffic block.
Crying about banks that got ''bailed-out" when most of them have had their lives ''bailed-out'' with student loans to get a college degree; only difference is the banks paid the loans back while these children of the suburbs don't want to..
They are marching on DC they have a 4 month permit to do so. But people are missing the point of the protest its more of an awareness that something isnt right and it isnt. There are powers at be that CREATE alot of the problems in the world and feeble minded people will never realize this.
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Old 10-15-2011, 08:48 AM
 
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Hmmm....interesting. It is hard for me to get behind movements of any kind that have some kind of populist movement. I actually think populist agendas have far more ability to cause unforeseen problems long term and can give too much power to oppress vs these short term fiscal issues we are having. I'd be more supportive if it was something leaning towards left libertarianism or even anarcho-capitalism, crazy laissez-faire or something where they broke up corporate entities that way. This whole populist, pro labor unions, democratic socialism thing really bothers me. I'm actually a bit farther left than most of the protesting types, I just don't agree with their strategies.
State run pro socialism, centralized democracy, government expansion and relying on gov is much scarier to me than a bunch of corporations getting rich.
This reminds me of Venezuelan like agendas.
FWIW.
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