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Old 10-15-2011, 05:03 PM
 
Location: MIA/DC
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you are heartless, the world would be a better place without that kind of pessimism and negativity. I hope you don't consider yourself a christian because that is a rather unchristian sentiment that you are describing there.[/i]
I don't have a religion.
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Yeah but I'm not talking about religion. I'm talking about philosophy, one that this country tries to live by, at least when it's not executing innocence men.[/u]
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I don't have a religion.
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:09 PM
 
Location: MIA/DC
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Yeah but I'm not talking about religion. I'm talking about philosophy, one that this country tries to live by, at least when it's not executing innocence men.[/u]
I feel sorry for no one. I don't feel sorry for the crippled homeless, the elderly, or the youth that are struggling. If that implies heartless character then so be it because outside my direct family and associates IDC about anyone else. For me, I live my life to make the means to support myself and family if they need to rely on me which thankfully they don't. Its your personal problem if you cant manage your money and want to live by luxuries you cant afford, its not the banks problem
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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unsurprising that you don't use the word friends in that statement. Just family and associates? I guess that's what you get when you're heartless.[/b]
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I feel sorry for no one. I don't feel sorry for the crippled, the mentally challenged, the elderly, or the youth that are struggling. If that implies heartless character then so be it because outside my direct family and associates IDC about anyone else. For me, I live my life to make the means to support myself and family if they need to rely on me which thankfully they don't. Its your personal problem if you cant manage your money and want to live by luxuries you cant afford, its not the banks problem
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Rome Wins

Protests go global, rampage in Rome - World news - msnbc.com
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:25 PM
 
Location: MIA/DC
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the world would be a better place without that kind of pessimism and negativity[/i]
The world Dub would be a superior place with a superior quality of life if every uncultured complainer got a sustainable lifestyle where they lived by their means and worked vigorously hard for what they feel they deserve. The world doesn't stop because your uncle Bill or aunt Susy are dealing with a foreclosure for a house they shouldn't have purchased because its out of their budget. If you lost your job then you weren't important enough to keep there, if you weren't as important to them then welcome to reality where these things occur and there's no such thing as permanence. This is why educating and working hard from an earlier age will lead you to live a superior lifestyle later down the road.

What the world needs Dub is more ambitious, hard working, educated people in it not the ungrateful complaining uncultured likes these protests are full of. I am a liberal and applaud progressive idealism and would gladly stand back to let logical reasoning be heard but in most instances these protesters are costing these large companies money and defaming/atempting to defame their reputations. Is this what you support? Putting your problems on someone else's back and have them pay for your mistakes? There are better solutions than this. I don't care for hearing a different point of view, I'm uninterested and everything I say I have my mind set to stand by.
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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You make it sound like it was a bunch of hippie kids who caused the housing crisis. It also sounds like you have an abnormal love for big banks. The most striking thing is that you actually believe the protesters are having an effect, that they are hurting the companies they target. You also seem to believe that large corporations are never greedy, always justified. That's freaky.

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The world Dub would be a superior place with a superior quality of life if every uncultured garbage got a sustainable lifestyle where they lived by their means and worked vigorously hard for what they feel they deserve. The world doesn't stop because your uncle Bill or aunt Susy are dealing with a foreclosure for a house they shouldn't have purchased because its out of their budget. If you lost your job then you weren't important enough to keep there, if you weren't as important to them then welcome to reality where these things occur and there's no such thing as permanence. This is why educating and working hard from an earlier age will lead you to live a superior lifestyle later down the road.

What the world needs Dub is more ambitious, hard working, educated people in it not the ungrateful complaining uncultured likes these protests are full of. I am a liberal and applaud progressive idealism and would gladly stand back to let logical reasoning be heard but in most instances these protesters are costing these large companies money and defaming/atempting to defame their reputations. Is this what you support? Putting your problems on someone else's back and have them pay for your mistakes? There are better solutions than this. I don't care for hearing a different point of view, I'm uninterested and everything I say I have my mind set to stand by.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:06 PM
 
Location: MIA/DC
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You make it sound like it was a bunch of hippie kids who caused the housing crisis. It also sounds like you have an abnormal love for big banks. The most striking thing is that you actually believe the protesters are having an effect, that they are hurting the companies they target. You also seem to believe that large corporations are never greedy, always justified. That's freaky.
I support banks but also see their faults as well. American banks were gullible to pass out loans without questioning the means of American consumers, they weren't strict about it and that's their problem that they recorded losses but its not as delusional as the consumers purchasing multiple homes or overpriced homes that their salaries, or lack thereof of salaries due to job cuts/downsizing would support. The housing crisis was a fiasco that revealed the vulnerability in economic expansion, the delusion that the economic prosperity will continue forever and nothing can bring it down. It's a capitalist economy, greed is the backbone to the American economy. To look out for your best interests first and foremost and your close partners, investors, alliance. Of the 7 billion that inhabit this world, do you suggest we ask each and every person of their feelings? Corporate decisions need to be made without the interference of emotions, many people want their money at the end of the night and wants to peacefully move towards a bigger tomorrow. Capitalist economies are not driven by emotions and emotions have no such place to be there.

Greed is rightfully justified IMO. Money is what importance is derived from, nothing else. More money makes you more powerful, if you don't have the money to be in the discussion then you're average aka a commoner who has no place to file complaints. NY is my favorite city not because of its history, location, food, etc but because of the ambition, power, money, grandeur of opportunities offered there that no other American city comes close to offering. It's the most important capitalist economy in the world IMO. The distractions these protesters cause for executives is unwarranted, time in NY is money and these protesters are wasting time thus wasting money that can be fed into profits.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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That's a stunning statement you make at the end there, and patently false. I feel sorry for you, and you can't stop me from doing so. I'm sure you cannot wait for the day machines take over, until then you better face the facts: humans run corporations and humans have emotions. Humans are flawed and there has to be a place for empathy. That's what I mean by Christian Philosophy... long ago the people rebelled against Rome, which claimed to be what you worship... a mix of money, power and stone-cold objectivity. I think one reason the story of Jesus resonates so strongly is that the man was born poor, lived poor, yet amassed so much power that to this day he's the most famous guy around, and that's the reason it's the year 2011 here in the USA and around most of the world, because of the internationally accepted 'civil calendar'. Like I said, I'm discussing philosophy here, not religion.

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I support banks but also see their faults as well. American banks were gullible to pass out loans without questioning the means of American consumers, they weren't strict about it and that's their problem that they recorded losses but its not as delusional as the consumers purchasing multiple homes or overpriced homes that their salaries, or lack thereof of salaries due to job cuts/downsizing would support. The housing crisis was a fiasco that revealed the vulnerability in economic expansion, the delusion that the economic prosperity will continue forever and nothing can bring it down. It's a capitalist economy, greed is the backbone to the American economy. To look out for your best interests first and foremost and your close partners, investors, alliance. Of the 7 billion that inhabit this world, do you suggest we ask each and every person of their feelings? Corporate decisions need to be made without the interference of emotions, many people want their money at the end of the night and wants to peacefully move towards a bigger tomorrow. Capitalist economies are not driven by emotions and emotions have no such place to be there.

Greed to a large extent is rightfully justified IMO. Money is what relevance is derived from, nothing else. More money makes you more powerful, if you don't have the money to be in the discussion then you're average aka a commoner who has no place to file complaints.


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Old 10-15-2011, 06:17 PM
 
Location: MIA/DC
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That's a stunning statement you make at the end there, and patently false. I feel sorry for you, and you can't stop me from doing so. I'm sure you cannot wait for the day machines take over, until then you better face the facts: humans run corporations and humans have emotions.[/b]
Businesses have no place for emotions, victims to foreclosures if the banks which is run by humans had any emotions before evicting them out their homes. Emotions are anti-profitable and they are a waste to these companies. You're correct, I anticipate the day the world becomes technologically fused. Will lead to less mistakes and anti-profitable excuses that led to product recalls. I feel comfortable closing my eyes at night to know my car is made by a machine and not a human hand, more prone to mistakes and failures
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